View Poll Results: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

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  • The poor should be banned from voting

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  • The richest 10% should be banned from voting

    2 11.76%
  • The top 1% should be banned from voting

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  • Only the middle class should be allowed to vote

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    You should have added a third option: "Everyone should be allowed to vote."
    Yes! I cannot even answer this poll..
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    everyone? felons, children, the insane? a 31 year old child rapist who is violently schizophrenic should be given a degree of control over the most powerful government in human history? he should be allowed to counteract the vote of a 31 year old working mom?

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    One of the more shameful legacies of the past decades has been what has been allowed to happen to American workers at the lower end of the earnings spectrum. While workers at the top end have become fewer and fewer with the outsourcing and offshoring of high pay-good benefits union jobs, those at the lower end have been suffering.

    We are talking here about more than 10 million American workers who earn the minimum wage. (Contrary to corporate propaganda, only 28% of those getting paid minimum wage are teenagers. Most are single women or men as head of households). The minimum wage in America reached its high point in the late 1960s in terms of real buying power, and thereafter went into a deep and steady free fall of more than 29% decline in buying power under Reagan during the 1980s. In the early and mid 1990s the decline was slowed somewhat with modest increases in the minimum wage legislated by Congress, but has fallen sharply was again since the last increase in the federal minimum wage in 1996, now approaching almost a decade ago.
    In terms of 2001 dollars, the minimum wage in 1979 was worth $6.55. It fell to $4.62 in 1989, rose modestly in the early and mid-1990s, but today in 2003 is equivalent to only $4.94 an hour. The minimum wage is 21.4% less today than it was in 1979. If you want to restrict the vote for the people that don't pay income tax then how about levelling the playing field a little for them?

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    most of us got minimum wage jobs out of the way by the time we entered college or the military. Life isn't fair, and nature is a cruel arena. I don't have a duty to pay more and more and more taxes to carry and fund the lives of people who most often made stupid decisions that led to their "poverty"



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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    most of us got minimum wage jobs out of the way by the time we entered college or the military. Life isn't fair, and nature is a cruel arena. I don't have a duty to pay more and more and more taxes to carry and fund the lives of people who most often made stupid decisions that led to their "poverty"

    little harsh to say its often stupid decisions that lead people to poverty, even people coming out of the military are taking up munimum wage jobs.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    little harsh to say its often stupid decisions that lead people to poverty, even people coming out of the military are taking up munimum wage jobs.
    the truth, the environment and nature can all be harsh. but it is the truth



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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    little harsh to say its often stupid decisions that lead people to poverty,
    not really. the number one cause of poverty is divorce, and number two is failing to marry the other parent of your children in the first place.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    little harsh to say its often stupid decisions that lead people to poverty, even people coming out of the military are taking up munimum wage jobs.
    Certainly it's true sometimes... stupid decisions do tend to put people in bad conditions. I was born poor but were it not for the farm land left to my family we'd have been in dire straits. That land sold for a decent amount of money. My father had a H.S. education and was a truck driver and a farmer... my mother was a seamstress and cook with 8 grades of education. However, what they had they provided to their kids to better themselves and we all have done better than our parents both educationally and in our ability to make money, keep jobs, invest, etc... My parents were poor, all of us kids are middle class to upper middle class.

    Agreed that military are in dire straits when they get out today. No one wants to hire them even though they have more experience and ability than many of the current work force at a very young age. Not sure when that happened, but it is a damn shame that they have to take minimum wage jobs. Their qualifications (in general) are worth more.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the truth, the environment and nature can all be harsh. but it is the truth
    very true and I admit myself that everything I have now is due to a good work ethic that my Dad drilled into me, that being said im not going to turn my back on the poorest. Yes some of them are lazy, drug addicts etc but a good majority are not and deserve a shot. The average compensation of a CEO in 1980 was about 40 times that of the average worker in his company. Today it is more than 500 times! This is the kind of **** that needs to stop.
    Last edited by Higgins86; 10-29-11 at 11:18 PM.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    very true and I admit myself that everything I have now is due to a good work ethic that my Dad drilled into me, that being said im not going to turn my back on the poorest. Yes some of them are lazy, drug addicts etc but a good majority are not and deserve a shot. The average compensation of a CEO in 1980 was about 40 times that of the average worker in his company. Today it is more than 500 times! This is the kind of **** that needs to stop.
    You do understand that being against more and more government, more and more taxation of those of us who already are carrying the burden for millions who either cannot or will not pay for what they use is not the same as opposing charity or the same as turning our backs on those who are truly needy.

    and its the shareholders of a corporation and market demand that should determine executive compensation



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