View Poll Results: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

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  • The poor should be banned from voting

    13 76.47%
  • The richest 10% should be banned from voting

    2 11.76%
  • The top 1% should be banned from voting

    1 5.88%
  • Only the middle class should be allowed to vote

    1 5.88%
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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    wow thats a honour considering your a multi oscar winner in the catergory of drama queen
    this is coming from some guy who has been here less than a month? massive fail on your part



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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    this is coming from some guy who has been here less than a month? massive fail on your part

    lol didn't say you had to like it, chin up champ!

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    lol didn't say you had to like it, chin up champ!
    You merely demonstrated you really have no clue about the subject. I have been called a lot of things on this board but not "drama queen". I tend to get bashed for being "insensitive" not wetting my pants over stuff that the thin skinned gets agitated over



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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    The idea that only those who pay income taxes can vote will just destroy the vote status.
    If lower classes can't vote they will become lower then lower. middle and high classes will have more influence and power to choose or kick who they want. seems to me like this switch to a monopole look like.
    more moneys will be involved and more will be paid to gain 1 vote. more corruption.

    One day we may hear even: only the ones that got master degree can vote. - again stupid and no sense


    what's the problem with how people are voting now? It's not like there are voting 100% of a population and/or managing the voting process is so hard.

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You merely demonstrated you really have no clue about the subject. I have been called a lot of things on this board but not "drama queen". I tend to get bashed for being "insensitive" not wetting my pants over stuff that the thin skinned gets agitated over

    whatever you say big guy

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    The idea that only those who pay income taxes can vote will just destroy the vote status.
    If lower classes can't vote they will become lower then lower. middle and high classes will have more influence and power to choose or kick who they want. seems to me like this switch to a monopole look like.
    more moneys will be involved and more will be paid to gain 1 vote. more corruption.

    One day we may hear even: only the ones that got master degree can vote. - again stupid and no sense


    what's the problem with how people are voting now? It's not like there are voting 100% of a population and/or managing the voting process is so hard.
    exactly you can't let the minority rule over the majority just not very democratic

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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    The idea that only those who pay income taxes can vote will just destroy the vote status.
    If lower classes can't vote they will become lower then lower. middle and high classes will have more influence and power to choose or kick who they want. seems to me like this switch to a monopole look like.
    more moneys will be involved and more will be paid to gain 1 vote. more corruption.

    One day we may hear even: only the ones that got master degree can vote. - again stupid and no sense


    what's the problem with how people are voting now? It's not like there are voting 100% of a population and/or managing the voting process is so hard.
    one of the reasons why we have such a huge deficit is due to government over spending. One of the main reasons why that happens is that too many politicians find advocating or engaging in massive spending actually gets them elected

    and how does that happen? they promise a majority of the voters in their district or state, or city more and more spending but they also tell the majority that the majority won't have to pay for this increased spending. rather the rich will

    the majority continues to demand more spending because they don't get taxed more and more to pay for it.

    Now the GOP is not blameless, They are afraid to cut off the addicts so they keep the public teat supplied with milk but they don't raise taxes on the rich to pay for it (whether raising taxes on the rich actually brings in more money for say more than a year or so is a dubious proposition).



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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    whatever you say big guy
    A good concession -how about getting back to the thread



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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    exactly you can't let the minority rule over the majority just not very democratic
    it is a legitimate argument to note that if the top 10% pay a majority of the taxes they should have a majority of the say concerning how federal income taxes are raised



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    Re: Should the Poor not be allowed to vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I think paraphrasing Heinlein, says it best.
    "Something that is free, has no value."

    I think everyone should have to earn the privilege of voting and running for public office.
    Not through taxes or money'd payments but through community service.
    "Service Guarantees Citizenship" great book.


    De Toqueville wrote about how early American communities would often come together to provide public support for those who were suffering, but would then not allow them to vote, the argument being that you have just created a class whose incentive will always be to vote themselves more benefits from others.

    In the past I've called for some basic poll testing - simple stuff like "Name the three branches of government". You could draw the questions from the citizenship exam; which you could also make High School Seniors take in order to get high school diplomas and vote for the rest of their lives. I wouldn't be totally opposed to restoring our original link between going on public assistance and the exercise of the franchise - in fact, it would make me much more comfortable with the notion of supporting others, as I would know that they would lack the ability to turn an attempt to provide a good into a public danger.

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