View Poll Results: Are You Voting November 8th?

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  • No, I never vote.

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  • No, I don't vote unless I have a candidate I'm supporting.

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Thread: Are You Voting Next Tuesday?

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    Re: Are You Voting Next Tuesday?

    If you have questions or concerns before or after voting, there is a 2002 federal law called the Help America Vote Act, which sets minimum standards and practices that states must follow. If you have questions whilst attempting to vote, I suggest you contact your local county board of elections, and if you are refused the right to vote, I suggest that you call the police and make a NON-EMERGENCY request that they come take a report, so that evidence will exist as to the facts of what transpired, in case you wish to pursue the matter.

    Here is the full text of the Help America Vote Act:


    http://www.boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf...VA_for_web.pdf

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    Re: Are You Voting Next Tuesday?

    Nobody should ever rely on anybody's representations that they are a lawyer (or doctor, or truck driver, or plumber, or any other sort of licensed professional) on a message board like this, nor should anybody rely on legal advice recieved via such a message board except as it might point you in the right direction as to which government agency, advocacy group, etc. would best be able to respond to your complaints if you are denied the right to vote.

    That said, if after Tuesday November 8th, you have complaints about your voting experience, feel free to start a thread and doubtless, it will attract the attention of at least some legal beagals on DP, such as myself or Turtledude.

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    Re: Are You Voting Next Tuesday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Should legislators be able to unionize?
    The people who make the rules don't need to.

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    Re: Are You Voting Next Tuesday?

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    Other people do it, so it's ok for you to?
    What's the next excuse?

    I'm more than sure, as an educator, that you've told plenty of children that, 2 wrongs don't make a right.

    TWO WRONGS!?!?!?!?!? What in the world are you talking about. It is the American way and there is nothing at all WRONG about being a member of different groups or associations which have people who represent them before government. I dare say that some Americans have dozens of people who push their interests and there is absolutely NOTHING WRONG with that. It is part and parcel of the way our democrtic republic is suppose to function.

    I claimed that the HG statement about not paying taxes was irrevelant when he stated this

    Can taxpayers not pay taxes, when public employees go on strike?
    We already know the answer to this.
    his comment in rebuttal

    It's entirely relevant.
    It's the important distinction between private business unions and public sector unions.
    Private unions are legitimate, public sector unions are merely rent seeking entities.
    Fortunately, your unique view on this matter is not the law nor is it reality.
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    Re: Are You Voting Next Tuesday?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    wasnt seeking your approval, i was stating a fact.
    Which is an irrelevant logical fallacy.
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    Re: Are You Voting Next Tuesday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Which is an irrelevant logical fallacy.
    interesting...stating a fact is now considered an 'irrelevant logical fallacy' by you....lord help us

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    Re: Are You Voting Next Tuesday?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    TWO WRONGS!?!?!?!?!? What in the world are you talking about. It is the American way and there is nothing at all WRONG about being a member of different groups or associations which have people who represent them before government. I dare say that some Americans have dozens of people who push their interests and there is absolutely NOTHING WRONG with that. It is part and parcel of the way our democrtic republic is suppose to function.
    Having multiple representation, in one section of government is wrong.
    Especially if others do not have at least an equal share of representation.

    Does this now mean you support the Citizens United decision?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I claimed that the HG statement about not paying taxes was irrevelant when he stated this
    Saying something is irrelevant, without providing a reason, does not make it so.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Fortunately, your unique view on this matter is not the law nor is it reality.
    It is reality, unless the sphere of private and public business is totally different in the state of Ohio.
    Something I'm sure is not.

    Fact is, you haven't been able to craft a competent rebuttal but are relying on meaningless conjecture.
    What's new though, right.
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    Re: Are You Voting Next Tuesday?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    interesting...stating a fact is now considered an 'irrelevant logical fallacy' by you....lord help us
    Do you not understand what a logical fallacy is?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiki
    Two wrongs make a right is a logical fallacy that occurs when it is assumed that if one wrong is committed, another wrong will cancel it out. This statement is seen as true to some people because 2 negatives indeed make a positive in math (3-(-3)= 3+3). However, a person with common sense would know that two wrongs don't make a right.


    Two wrongs make a right - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Are You Voting Next Tuesday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Do you not understand what a logical fallacy is?



    [/B]Two wrongs make a right - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    you are arguing against yourself...i made a statement of fact, how you interpret it is your business. and please, save your lecture on what a 'fallacy' is for someone else, thanks.

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    Re: Are You Voting Next Tuesday?

    Semi-serious question: There are so many logical fallacies that seem to cover pretty much anything and everything a person can possibly say, especially when what was said is left to individual interpretation. Is there anything that is NOT a logical fallacy?

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