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    Re: Does the Government Have the Authority to Separate Hitler from his Parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Hitler and the examples are far more than "politically incorrect".
    Far far more.....
    There is a problem in our nation in that people trust not their own government....Government is partially to blame for this.
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    What in the world are you talking about?

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    Re: Does the Government Have the Authority to Separate Hitler from his Parents?

    As a devout slippery slope theorist I fear the precedent this sets more so than the individual incident.

    Do they have the authority? They clearly think they do. Morally/ethically? I'm not so sure.

    Do they have the ability to get away with it? You bet'cha.

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    Re: Does the Government Have the Authority to Separate Hitler from his Parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    I am inclined to say, emphatically, "No way!" It is a scary thing when the courts can take away your children because they think the names you gave them are politically incorrect.

    ...on the other hand, what if the parents had named their children "Dickhead" and "Kick Me in the Balls"?
    This is a really good point about where do you draw the line about such a thing.

    I was thinking that it is almost certain that most would consider it child abuse if parents named their children "Stupid" or "Retard" or something other derogatory word that would be child abuse if you use those words against a child on a regular basis in many states. I could easily see such parents claiming it was some philosophical attempt to change the meanings of those words, but the majority would still say that doing this is still wrong since any rational adult should realize that having such names would cause a lot of ridicule and almost definitely some self esteem issues due just to having those names.

    I think the biggest problem in this case is the names at least sound like they could be legitimate names and have been used separately, in the very least, for children as actual names.
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    Re: Does the Government Have the Authority to Separate Hitler from his Parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I don't agree with this whole concept of, let's allow people to name their children whatever they want. I do think that some names could be abusive and provoke shame and humiliation in children.

    What if somebody wants to name their kid Little Bastard or Dumbass or adopts a baby from Africa and name it Nigger?

    If my parents named me Aryan Nation, I'd ****ing change my name.. but I have to be 18 to legally do so first. I have gone through school with a name I already hate, but it's not as bad as Aryan Nation. It's was always on the class list... everybody sees it and calls me that name. It's hard to keep a name secret, even if you don't go by it.
    Such names do make one wonder if these children are being abused, psychologically if not physically. However, unless there is some evidence of abuse, other than an oddball name, there does not appear to be any rational reason for removing them from their parents.

    Frank Zappa named his children Moon Unit, Dweezil, Ahmet, and Diva. I don't recall any of them being removed from the custody of their parents on the basis of bad taste.

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    Re: Does the Government Have the Authority to Separate Hitler from his Parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Based on the fact they do not like the child's name I say no. Our president's middle name is the last name of a former brutal middle eastern dictator and I do not see the government trying to kick him out of office over it.
    It's not really comparable. Hussein is a relatively common name in the Muslim world. The parents here seemed like they went out of their way to give their kids ****ty names. I'm not sure if the government has the right to deprive them of custody just for this, I'd have to observe how they actually treat their kids. The story claims no abuse, so it's kinda gray for me right now.
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    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Does the Government Have the Authority to Separate Hitler from his Parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    It's not really comparable. Hussein is a relatively common name in the Muslim world. The parents here seemed like they went out of their way to give their kids ****ty names. I'm not sure if the government has the right to deprive them of custody just for this, I'd have to observe how they actually treat their kids. The story claims no abuse, so it's kinda gray for me right now.
    Adolph was a relatively common name in Germany and Austria, also... back in the day. Today, even there it's no longer in common use.

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    Re: Does the Government Have the Authority to Separate Hitler from his Parents?

    I once knew a kid named Harry Sack, if that isn't parental cruelty I don't know what is.

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    Re: Does the Government Have the Authority to Separate Hitler from his Parents?

    Any kid named Richard?

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    Re: Does the Government Have the Authority to Separate Hitler from his Parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Any kid named Richard?
    One of the guys on the ship was named Richard Dick. He lived up to the name quite well.
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    Re: Does the Government Have the Authority to Separate Hitler from his Parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    One of the guys on the ship was named Richard Dick. He lived up to the name quite well.
    On my first job I worked for a guy named Dick, obviously short for Richard. He was a "Jr". He had a 2 yr old son who was a "III". He and his wife called him "Dickie". Really cute kid, always laughing and smiling. But, when they first told me his name, inside I thought to myself, " This kid is going to be in for a very rude surprise his first day of Kindergarten.".

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