View Poll Results: Which ones are people?

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  • Chimpanzee

    11 52.38%
  • Dolphin

    10 47.62%
  • Orangutan

    9 42.86%
  • Elephant

    8 38.10%
  • Crow

    6 28.57%
  • Pig

    7 33.33%
  • Squirrel

    7 33.33%
  • Pigeon

    7 33.33%
  • Octopus

    8 38.10%
  • Rat

    11 52.38%
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Thread: Should animals be granted personhood?

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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    There should really be a name for highjacking a generic rights thread and turning it into an abortion-rights thread. Kind of like the whole "godwin"/hitler thing.
    Digsbe started it.

    I've never looked it up but from the name, PETA don't seek personhood for animals, just that we treat them ethically. What's so bad about that?
    Don't factory farm, let animals live as decent a life as we can, with food, shelter, and access to the open air before we humanely kill, and eat them.

    Taking Killer Whales (actually dolphins) from the wild to live an unnatural insanity-causing life for our "entertainment" isn't ethical.
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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    There should really be a name for highjacking a generic rights thread and turning it into an abortion-rights thread. Kind of like the whole "godwin"/hitler thing.
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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    If pigs are granted personhood we will not have pork. NO BACON.

    It will never happen.

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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Digsbe started it.

    I've never looked it up but from the name, PETA don't seek personhood for animals, just that we treat them ethically. What's so bad about that?
    Don't factory farm, let animals live as decent a life as we can, with food, shelter, and access to the open air before we humanely kill, and eat them.
    No, they don't, they want everyone to go vegan, and all animals to run free and wild, except dogs, which they kill.
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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Digsbe started it.

    I've never looked it up but from the name, PETA don't seek personhood for animals, just that we treat them ethically. What's so bad about that?
    Don't factory farm, let animals live as decent a life as we can, with food, shelter, and access to the open air before we humanely kill, and eat them.

    Taking Killer Whales (actually dolphins) from the wild to live an unnatural insanity-causing life for our "entertainment" isn't ethical.
    That I can agree with.
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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Going on from the PETA thread, the argument is that smart animals should be granted personhood, and/or special legal protection, so after doing a few seconds of research, I found a list of the top 10 smartest animals. Should you agree that some animals should be granted personhood, which of the animals would you like to see as people?
    All of them. Judging by some of the posters on this forum, I've met gerbils with more intelligence.

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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    I wonder if PETA supports spaying and neutering people.
    To hell with PETA... I support it! In some cases, it should be mandatory!

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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    no animals should be granted "personhood".

    but we should increase our regulations protecting the rights of animals.

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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    smartest animal for me remain dolphin.

    Dolphin's intelligence is consider almost same with Chimpanzee. The advantage of Chimpanzee is that they got hands and legs and express their intelligence often and widely.

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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Is Cass Sunstein in on this nonsense as well? Didn't he advocate that trees/animals should have lawyers?
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