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  • Chimpanzee

    11 52.38%
  • Dolphin

    10 47.62%
  • Orangutan

    9 42.86%
  • Elephant

    8 38.10%
  • Crow

    6 28.57%
  • Pig

    7 33.33%
  • Squirrel

    7 33.33%
  • Pigeon

    7 33.33%
  • Octopus

    8 38.10%
  • Rat

    11 52.38%
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Thread: Should animals be granted personhood?

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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    My cat can open doors that are latched shut, move and hide a food bowl so the other cat doesn't eat it, recognizes his name and several instructive phrases, and has changed the channel on the TV to Animal Planet twice.

    I think he should be able to vote in the next presidential election. In cat years he's about 24.
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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    My cat can open doors that are latched shut, move and hide a food bowl so the other cat doesn't eat it, recognizes his name and several instructive phrases, and has changed the channel on the TV to Animal Planet twice.

    I think he should be able to vote in the next presidential election. In cat years he's about 24.
    Cats aren't stupid. But my dogs don't get trapped in the closet.
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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    I wonder what PETA's stance on abortion is...
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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Cats aren't stupid. But my dogs don't get trapped in the closet.
    ONE of my cats has a thing for hiding in the closet. The other one (the smarter one) doesn't care for dark places. He's the strangest cat I've ever met.
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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I wonder what PETA's stance on abortion is...
    As long as you don't wear the fetus afterwards they're leniant.


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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I wonder what PETA's stance on abortion is...
    Well, they do kill a lot of animals. Look up Penn & Teller's show Bull**** about PETA.
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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    As long as you don't wear the fetus afterwards they're leniant.


    (bad joke, I know)
    Hehe... I have a dark sense of humor and I did chuckle.
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    Well, they do kill a lot of animals. Look up Penn & Teller's show Bull**** about PETA.
    Maybe so, but I would see it as hypocritical for them to support abortion and deny unborn humans personhood while demanding we extend that right to some animals.
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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Hehe... I have a dark sense of humor and I did chuckle.


    Maybe so, but I would see it as hypocritical for them to support abortion and deny unborn humans personhood while demanding we extend that right to some animals.
    I wonder if PETA supports spaying and neutering people.
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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    I'm undecided, but leaning towards personhood. I haven't really heard many persuasive arguments against animal rights, but I'd really like to.

    On the flip side, though, I really don't understand why the PETA folks believe that animal cruelty laws need to be in place, but it's fine for people to own pets. As far as I'm concerned, either chimpanzees should have equal rights or they should have all the legal protection of an inanimate object. In terms of the historical slavery debate, I don't get this position of "yeah, it's okay to own a (N-word) as long as you treat him nicely". I'm interested in hearing someone justify it, though.

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    Re: Should animals be granted personhood?

    I think personhood is kind of a bunk argument in the first place because humans apply it so inconsistently to themselves.

    I would rather say that animals should be spared undue cruelty under law. Just because some of them are livestock, does not mean they should endure abuse, displacement, or be threatened with extinction because of our selfish ways.

    Dolphins are incredibly intelligent to the point of sentience. I would not want to see them suffer.

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