View Poll Results: Do you miss the Cold War?

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  • Yes, I miss the spirit

    2 18.18%
  • Yes (beacause there was no globalisation)

    2 18.18%
  • Yes (beacause I was young)

    1 9.09%
  • Yes (various reasons)

    0 0%
  • No because I don't have memories

    5 45.45%
  • No although I have memories

    3 27.27%
  • I like the Cold War better than today

    2 18.18%
  • I like today better than the Cold War

    2 18.18%
  • Other

    0 0%
  • There was o suh thing as the Cold War

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Thread: Do you miss the Cold War?

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    Re: Do you miss the Cold War?

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Not at all. Thanks to the internet and globalization, we now have more peace, more prosperity, less hyper-nationalism and no longer do the world power use other nations as pawns in a global chess game (well, mostly). I approach the post-Col War era of globalization with optimism and am ready to see what the world can do we when compete peacefully, with less emphasis on military expansion and more of the mutually beneficial notion of free trade between nations.

    Yay, capitalism!
    I'm not entirely sure I agree with the sentiment "we have more peace."
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Do you miss the Cold War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    The Cold War was a great time for rock music. So yes, I miss it.


    Really?

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    Re: Do you miss the Cold War?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm not entirely sure I agree with the sentiment "we have more peace."
    I think a better way of putting it is that "warfare was more controlled."
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Do you miss the Cold War?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm not entirely sure I agree with the sentiment "we have more peace."
    Actually, global conflicts have decreased.

    Better graph.

    The average rate of onset for societal wars changes little: from 3.77 to 3.35 per year. On the other hand, the average rate of onset for interstate wars seems to have fallen by more than half (from 1.43 to 0.70 per year); this brings down the average number of (total) war onsets from 5.19 per year during the Cold War to 4.05 per year in the post-Cold War period. The most recent year, 2011, is marked with an asterisk because the data reflects numbers of new onsets through August 2011.
    While civil war, compared to the Cold War era and today, has lowered very slightly, the rate of wars between nations has dropped significantly.
    Last edited by RadicalModerate; 10-27-11 at 08:16 PM.

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    Re: Do you miss the Cold War?

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Actually, global conflicts have decreased.



    While civil war, compared to the Cold War era and today, has lowered very slightly, the rate of wars between nations has dropped significantly.
    Has violence and overall casualties and suffering due to armed conflict decreased? That's what I would like to know.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Do you miss the Cold War?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Not sure what you're trying to get at here. Could you elaborate?
    I think the worst it got back then was when you were dealing with union workers. In general, people understood how democracy and capitalism went hand in hand because the alternative was a totalitarian means of production that was supposedly for all the people.

    Now, people don't remember that anymore.

    There's also a cultural aspect in how people seem much more addicted to consuming just to wear things out in order to achieve social status, and that goes along with the abundance of personal debt people accumulate like crazy.

    It's no wonder then that people clamor for government regulation so much. They don't want to take care of themselves and really get to know the people around them. Everyone's all about being cool by living in the moment or doing what's popular.

    When it came to "made in China/Japan" people understood the value of consumer sovereignty.
    Last edited by Daktoria; 10-27-11 at 08:17 PM.

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    Re: Do you miss the Cold War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    I think the worst it got back then was when you were dealing with union workers. In general, people understood how democracy and capitalism went hand in hand because the alternative was a totalitarian means of production that was supposedly for all the people.

    Now, people don't remember that anymore.

    There's also a cultural aspect in how people seem much more addicted to consuming just to wear things out in order to achieve social status, and that goes along with the abundance of personal debt people accumulate like crazy.

    It's no wonder then that people clamor for government regulation so much. They don't want to take care of themselves and really get to know the people around them. Everyone's all about being cool by living in the moment or doing what's popular.

    When it came to "made in China/Japan" people understood the value of consumer sovereignty.
    So it'd probably be more accurate to say that you miss that time period, rather than missing the "Cold War" itself.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Do you miss the Cold War?

    Well like I said, people had the Soviet Union to look upon as an anti-free market country.

    Now, people don't have that immediate example. When you're dealing with dialectic/a posteriori/experimental/concrete feelers, you really need that example to explain "this or else"...

    ...but yea, gas prices were cheaper.

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    Re: Do you miss the Cold War?

    Wasn't really aware of it until it was over, but I doubt I would have missed it.
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    Re: Do you miss the Cold War?

    Cold war - a war bettween years 1946 or 1947 i guess till 1991. A war where were used no guns. A war characterized by propaganda, political conflicts, military tension due to espionage, economical hard competition.

    In simple words: Both sides USA and USSR were spying each others and no one ever used guns since during their espionage they realised the strength of each others and they valuated that the best way on that time would be to out the guns down.

    Imo both USA and USSR were so much strong and so much weak to each other eyes that they were both afraid to attack or not.


    Anyway i don't get. What's so special that we or anyone else around here could miss from cold war??

    I mean Cold War wasn't smth that most of society felt or was involved so in this way some of them may have nostalgy. Only secret agents may miss smth for cold war.
    I mean, we other and simple people were at home trying to recover and re-construct our own homes which were destroyed during ww2.


    Just that imo this subject could be made up in a better way. I see most of people here say: Ye, i miss cold war coz rock music was hot on that time and things like that. (while i'm sure they think only about years 80-90)
    Some others of us (including me) when saw in title Cold War though about it's politic side.

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