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  • The presidents who let 500,000 Americans die needless in the Civil War

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    Worst Presidents

    Conservative said "No one can change the reality that Jimmy Carter is smiling these days as Obama will replace him as our worst President in modern history. "

    Let's see who agrees with him.
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    What about Nixon?

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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    What about Nixon?
    Nixon didn't let 500,000 Americans die needlessly because he was too much of a worthless pansy to make the hard decisions to prevent a civil war.
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Is this some kind of anti Lincoln thread?


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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Is this some kind of anti Lincoln thread?
    I would assume he was referring to Lincoln's predecessors, who truly WERE awful presidents: James Buchanan, Franklin Pierce, and Millard Fillmore. I would also include Lincoln's successor, Andrew Johnson, who actively sided with the southern segregationists and helped to pave the way for institutionalized Jim Crow Laws.
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Conservative said "No one can change the reality that Jimmy Carter is smiling these days as Obama will replace him as our worst President in modern history. "

    Let's see who agrees with him.
    I would love to see you explain the reasons that you picked the poll options that you did. Each one seperately of course. Just so we won't get confused as to what exactly you are basing your arguement on.
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Any one who thinks that Obama is the worst President is a partisan hack with no ability to understand how a determination like this would be made. Generally, it takes about 10 years after a Presidency to fully understand the impact of that administration. Currently, we can not fully assess the administrations of GWB or Obama. Anyone who believes otherwise has no credibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Any one who thinks that Obama is the worst President is a partisan hack with no ability to understand how a determination like this would be made. Generally, it takes about 10 years after a Presidency to fully understand the impact of that administration. Currently, we can not fully assess the administrations of GWB or Obama. Anyone who believes otherwise has no credibility.
    Sorry CC but I have to disagree here. Its not hard to tell that Bush invaded privacy rights via the Patriot Act and used 9/11 as an excuse to do it (something which even now, under Obama, is still in effect). It is also not hard to tell that Obama is putting a tax on people for simply living with his Obamacare. To me those two points alone puts both of them among the worst presidents in US history.

    Now if I'm a partisan hack for this...well then...so be it.
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    You left out Wilson, the man who literally sold the United States to private bankers. The legal codification of wealth disparity that we are still suffering under today, that informed Reaganomics, trickle down theories, the absurd idea that the wealthy actually deserve what they have... that all comes from Wilson and his allowing turning over ownership of all the wealth in the country to a few private interests. Did you know that all money is actually borrowed from them? That's why it says Federal Reserve Note. Did you also know that 25% of all payments from the national debt go right into their pockets. That's right, of the nearly 15 trillion that the country owes, 3.75 trillion of that is destined to go right into the pockets of these legally anonymous owners of the Federal Reserve. And it's not like they gave us anything for this. All of the money we have is a debt to them. It's loaned out, with interest.

    And all of this is because of Woodrow Wilson. Also, he manipulated his country into a war it had no business taking part in. I'm sure a lot of conservatives hate him for signing the federal income tax into law. Plus he was a racist, in a time when racism was starting to lose its hold on the country, and enlightened, educated people were getting over some of the old prejudices. Plessy vs Ferguson, while allowing the "separate but equal" doctrine (which is, of course, not equal at all), still recognized that it was wrong to subject members of different races to unequal standards like education. A black school had to be just as good as a white school. Why do I mention this? It was because Plessy v Ferguson was resolved in 1896, and Woodrow Wilson was elected president in 1913. In 17 years, he ought to get with the program. Instead he wanted to keep the separate part, but drop the equal.

    I don't mean to suggest that everything Woodrow Wilson did was bad. He supported some important anti-trust legislation and signed women's suffrage into law. He did some good. But the bad things he did are so unforgivable that they still are killing innocent children today, in order to line the pockets of fatcats so fatcat, they must no longer be human.

    Because of Woodrow Wilson, none of us own any of our possessions. We had to purchase them on credit, even if we bought it with cash, for even cash is just credit from the federal reserve. Because of Woodrow Wilson, we are slaves. Debt Slaves. We own nothing, and have no buying power. With every action we take, with every dime spend we tangle their web even tighter.

    I've ranted and gotten a bit doomsayer here, but the important information is simple.
    1. Federal reserve bad. It's owned by and operated by a few private owners, whose identities are kept completely secret.
    2. Federal reserve big. All money it gives to use is actually an agreement to pay that money back, with interest.
    3. Federal reserve smart. All the money we have to pay back the reserve is done with either (slave) labor, or the very same money that we borrowed from them and cannot pay the debt on.

    All very complex, and I am not sober enough to explain in real detail.

    Suffice to say. Woodrow Wilson was a bad guy. And I am about to pass out.
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Sorry CC but I have to disagree here. Its not hard to tell that Bush invaded privacy rights via the Patriot Act and used 9/11 as an excuse to do it (something which even now, under Obama, is still in effect). It is also not hard to tell that Obama is putting a tax on people for simply living with his Obamacare. To me those two points alone puts both of them among the worst presidents in US history.

    Now if I'm a partisan hack for this...well then...so be it.
    You can identify policies that you do not like, but from a historical perspective, we really have no idea of the impact that these administrations will have in the big picture... and that is the true test of the success or failure of a Presidency. I'm not saying that you are a partisan hack, but I do think that your perception on this issue is very short-sighted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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