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  • The presidents who let 500,000 Americans die needless in the Civil War

    9 14.75%
  • Hoover, who turned a recession into the Great Depression

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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You can identify policies that you do not like, but from a historical perspective, we really have no idea of the impact that these administrations will have in the big picture... and that is the true test of the success or failure of a Presidency. I'm not saying that you are a partisan hack, but I do think that your perception on this issue is very short-sighted.
    I don't think its short sighted. Once rights are given out they are very hard to take away. But once they are taken away they are very hard to get back also. How long will the Patriot Act stay in effect? Obamacare? From all indications, both current and historical, both of those policies are here to stay permanently. Both go against what the US is suppose to stand for.

    Granted I'm basing my belief on one policy from each of those two presidents instead of everything those two have done period. But imo those two policies are against two of the most important freedoms that we have as US citizens. The only thing imo that might cancel those two losses out would be if GWB and Obama's policies totally got rid of the poverty level in the US. Those two freedoms are that important to me.
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I don't think its short sighted. Once rights are given out they are very hard to take away. But once they are taken away they are very hard to get back also. How long will the Patriot Act stay in effect? Obamacare? From all indications, both current and historical, both of those policies are here to stay permanently. Both go against what the US is suppose to stand for.
    But you have no idea whether or not those two policies, historically, will be helpful to the country. Obamacare, for example, could turn out to be a major asset to healthcare... or a major disaster. Currently, we have no idea, so basing your position on Obama on this issue is VERY short-sighted.

    Granted I'm basing my belief on one policy from each of those two presidents instead of everything those two have done period. But imo those two policies are against two of the most important freedoms that we have as US citizens. The only thing imo that might cancel those two losses out would be if GWB and Obama's policies totally got rid of the poverty level in the US. Those two freedoms are that important to me.
    Important to you. That does not determine whether they were good for the country, over all.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Obamacare is just more of the wolfs eating the sheep while the patriot act is police state nonsense. Neither one is good for the country.

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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Obamacare is just more of the wolfs eating the sheep while the patriot act is police state nonsense. Neither one is good for the country.
    You might be right... or not. Thing is we won't really know until there is some distance from these Presidencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You might be right... or not. Thing is we won't really know until there is some distance from these Presidencies.
    And some of the stuff that went down we may never know - too highly classified or some such.
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Rececent History: George W. Bush, for his wars, his budget deficits, and that he fueled the bouble in 2001 to prevent the crisis.

    Mid-History: Herbert Hoover, because of his terrible policies during the depression. If Hoover was replaced with a monkey, US would have done better.

    Past History: Andrew Jackson, he was horrible against the indians, and millions of indiands died and lost their homeland because of him. He also crashed the whole economy with his dumb polices.

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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    Rececent History: George W. Bush, for his wars, his budget deficits, and that he fueled the bouble in 2001 to prevent the crisis.

    Mid-History: Herbert Hoover, because of his terrible policies during the depression. If Hoover was replaced with a monkey, US would have done better.

    Past History: Andrew Jackson, he was horrible against the indians, and millions of indiands died and lost their homeland because of him. He also crashed the whole economy with his dumb polices.
    You've got to be kidding about Jackson. Yes, he was horrible against Native Americans, but that was the perception of the time, and placing it in historical perspective, his positions were consistent with social mores. As far as economics, Jackson is the ONLY President in history to have left office with a budget SURPLUS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You've got to be kidding about Jackson. Yes, he was horrible against Native Americans, but that was the perception of the time, and placing it in historical perspective, his positions were consistent with social mores. As far as economics, Jackson is the ONLY President in history to have left office with a budget SURPLUS.
    I'm glad you didn't bring Clinton that one.
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Conservative said "No one can change the reality that Jimmy Carter is smiling these days as Obama will replace him as our worst President in modern history. "

    Let's see who agrees with him.
    I think Carter got worse after leaving office after he laid down his hammer and started bitching about everybody.
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    The Democrat controlled House and Senate for allowed Obama to waste more money and run up a debt more than all others in that office combined.
    We now have more people living in poverty and on food stamps than even.
    Housing repositions are at an all time high.
    Obama has made major mistakes in foreign policy and has become the Appeaser in Chief blaming Americas for all the world ills while he talks a good game, and does things to make everything worse.
    Libya is going to be run by Sheia
    The only thing Obama has been good at is taking vacations waisting our money to live like a welfare recipient who won the lottery, (with His wife's help), and he is also good at blinding idiots who lake the mental acuity to see past the smoke and mirrors.
    Obama and his people many are radicals, have also convince these same "people" that his is somehow brilliant' when his record in office ans every program they have come up with show the opposite to be true.
    Obama learned Black Liberation Theology over 20 years from his Anti- American mentor Rev, Wright. He also was raised in atmosphere of communism from his father, stepfather, mother and grandparents.
    He is now touting the Wall Street Protesters who are showing signs proclaiming Marxism and Anti- Semitism which seems to fit Obama to a T.
    I think if Obama has an enemies list there are a few here who are on it.

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