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    29 47.54%
  • The presidents who let 500,000 Americans die needless in the Civil War

    9 14.75%
  • Hoover, who turned a recession into the Great Depression

    23 37.70%
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Clearly the worst president is Josiah Bartlet.
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    exactly....

    the inept ones had less long term damage to the country
    Not necessarily. I think Buchanan's inaction, Johnson's support of racist policies, and Harding... creating distrust of government (similar to Nixon) had some long lasting effects.

    Wilson gave us the income tax and FDR destroyed the boundaries between state and the federal government and made the tenth amendment and afterthought
    And some see these things as good, and some as bad, hence how these Presidents turn up on both the "best" and "worst" lists.
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    1. James Buchanan
    2. George W. Bush
    3. Franklin Pierce
    4. Woodrow Wilson
    5. Harry Truman
    6. JFK
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    The idea that Obama is the worst president in our history is complete, utter, ignorant hackery. Which is why it is never asserted except by whiney, conclusory statements.
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    From a historical perspective, one has to consider the following as among the lower echelon of presidents:

    1. James Buchanan (1857-1861) - Doughface who stubbornly believed he had no authority to prevent the dissolution of the Union.

    2. Andrew Johnson (1865-1869) - Unelected president whose intransigence with Congress and Southern sympathies virtually ensured the institutionalization of Jim Crow in the South.

    3. Franklin Pierce (1853-1857) - Two words: "Bleeding Kansas".

    It was no coincidence that these three administrations bookended Abraham Lincoln's outstanding leadership during the Civil War. The most seminal event in our history since the founding of our nation, the Civil War was made necessary and its victory muted by the above trio. No president, before or since, through action or inaction has so recklessly imperiled our nation as this triumvirate of failure.

    Following suit is an amalgam of presidents who failed utterly in times of crisis and who implemented long-lasting policies which crippled the nation. Who those individuals are depends largely on one's policy preferences and personal biases. It is patently absurd, however, to suggest any other president's impact on the economy, on national security, on the American public, has been as destructive as the Pierce, Buchanan and Johnson administrations were to the existence and welfare of the United States.

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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    The idea that Obama is the worst president in our history is complete, utter, ignorant hackery. Which is why it is never asserted except by whiney, conclusory statements.
    It is hackery; as much as the assertion that George W. Bush is the worst ever.

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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    1. James Buchanan
    2. George W. Bush
    3. Franklin Pierce
    4. Woodrow Wilson
    5. Harry Truman
    6. JFK
    I can guess why most of these guys are on your list, but this may be the first time I've seen Truman or JFK in the bottom five or six ever. Could you give some explanation for them please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstone View Post
    It is hackery; as much as the assertion that George W. Bush is the worst ever.
    And this is childish.
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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Conservative said "No one can change the reality that Jimmy Carter is smiling these days as Obama will replace him as our worst President in modern history. "

    Let's see who agrees with him.
    Why is Obama constantly under the lense for possibly being the worse president in history. There's 50 or whatever Presidents and many of them SUCKED, Obama should be nowhere in the running for this.

    Guess what? I think that BECAUSE HE'S BLACK people are trying to somehow rationalize him being completely last in presidential history in order to push some underlined racist agenda that blacks can't hold up to the office of Presidency.

    Yea I said it

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    Re: Worst Presidents

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    JQ Adams did not do much of the work. Nowadays, Jackson would probably be seen as a Libertarian. His small government policies, appropriate for the time were what reduced the debt. Also, Van Buren worsened the economic crisis by doing nothing, and though Jackson had a part in what happened, The Bank of the US also had a part. Blaming it all on Jackson is inaccurate.



    Van Buren is the "father" of the modern patronage system. Jackson was the first to take it national.
    Im pretty sure the US Bank had nothing to do with the Panic of 1837 since Jackson had removed all of the money from it using some shaky tactics.
    The causes of the Panic were Jackson's "Liberetarian" policies. He did rid America of debt, but that was actually bad. He used wild tactics such as the Sepcie Circular and the use of the "wildcat" banks to replace the Federal Reserve. Andrew Jackson was the start of the Spoils System even after crying "corrupt bargain" in Quincy Adams's election.
    Whoever said Lincoln is the worst president in history, where do you get that from? He is the only President from that time period that WAS NOT a complete failure. I think you have faulty logic somewhere.

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