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Thats cuz the Spanish people are racist.
dude, watch Spanish-language television sometime.
Thats cuz the Spanish people are racist.
What does this have to do with the fact that many white slave owners perceived their slaves to be racially inferior?
How, exactly, do you figure? They were denied the same rights and discounted in the same ways as blacks were. To this day, you still have "white trash" white people: poor, ignorant, breeders with no concept of socially acceptable behavior or hygiene.
Im tellin ya...they are a bunch of racists. Started the whole slavery thing, they did.dude, watch Spanish-language television sometime.
Im tellin ya...they are a bunch of racists. Started the whole slavery thing, they did...
Or to the native Indians in this country...man...some of the **** they used to do to the tribes and nations they conquered...man...you want to talk barberic. Midevil.comparing such people to black slaves and blacks living under Jim Crow, is either the height of dishonesty or the zenith of ignorance.
Care to take a bet on that? How much do you want to bet that the indiginous people in this land long before the spaniards DIDNT engage in slavery. Please say like...a billion dollars.in North America? yes, yes they did.
I am not even going to continue this silliness.
Have yourself a good one.
comparing such people to black slaves and blacks living under Jim Crow, is either the height of dishonesty or the zenith of ignorance.
What does this have to do with the fact that many white slave owners perceived their slaves to be racially inferior?
yeah, and who forced them into this position due to the color of their skin??
nobody, which is why the comparison is stupid.
...Its 2011 dood. yes...we all see how seeeeensitive you are. Time to grow up a little bit.
...Thunder has a hard-on for the plight of the black man....
and you appear to want to white-wash their suffering in the USA, by comparing them to lazy, poor, & uneducated white people.
Are you confused? Not getting it? Racial inferiority is not the only inferiority issue that has or does exist in this country (nor was it the first). To imply that racial inferiority is any worse than other forms of inferiority is either arrogant or ignorant. <--- I could not make this stuff up, hehehe. We have groups right now in this country that want Islam disallowed, and practitioners of the religion threatened if they continue public worship. We have groups who want to dictact what Islamists can do in the privacy of their own homes because of some ridiculous fear of Sharia law creeping into their own house. We have groups of whites who look down on poor whites, mexicans who look down on illegal mexicans, blacks who look down on poor blacks. We have races looking down on one another. Thunder tried to make a "clever" point in indicating that only blacks have been made inferior in this country. He was wrong. On the basis of race alone he was wrong. But in a general sense, given all of the factors involved, he was a dead-as-a-doornail, completely, totally wrong. I even clarified in my response to him that I was not refering to race in my example, but if he wants to, we certainly can.
Were blacks put into camps in the desert and fed gruel, forced to go unshowered, and summarily treated like crap, without much apology, during a war? Were blacks brought over here for cheap, back-breaking labor before hand, causing a population boom and prosperity that was essentially stripped away? No...that was pretty much any asian-looking person after Japan bombed us. And how about mexicans? They sure get a lot of ****, don't they? Is working for less than minimum wage in 100 degree temperatures on back-breaking labor much better than slavery? They can't vote, can't really marry, have no ability to influence change in their favor.
Thunder has a hard-on for the plight of the black man. He seems to think we need to get down on our knees and beg for a modicum of respect because of **** my ancestors had no part in, simply because we're white and the black man isn't. <----- He said nothing of the sort. And you have the nerve to call people illiterate? Screw that. I respect the black man enough not to pretend I need to see forgiveness for **** he knows I didn't do. I respect the black man enough to know he's strong and smart and just as able as he wants to be. I'm not going to discount the rest of history to put the plight of black men on a pedestal to gain PC points. It's 2011. You can stand right next to me in line for my job and I'll still hope I get selected, but not because you're black...but rather because I want the job and I'm up against (assumedly) good competition.
I have no idea if it would have been different, but what the hell does that have to do with actual history? What is your point?Would it not naturally develop that the man you just purchased from his tribal leader is inferior to you? Do you really think it would have been any different if we had been buying people from the Greeks? or the Scandanavians?
No, you still don't understand it. Illiterate #2.
No...clinging to the white people are evil and black people were the only opressed and we should CONTINUE to relive 1776 in 2011 all the while ignoring every other nation and races reality with regards to slavery makes you...hmmm...seeeeensitive...no...thats just the pretense...what is a better word...help me out...stating facts and denying lies..makes me "sensitive"?
Five centuries? 1700 to 2000 is three hunderd years. We didn't get slaves here until the end of the 1600s.
Jesus, Thunder. Read a ****ing book.
I never did that. Not once. I responded to your poorly worded question and corrected you on your very, very distorted view of history. You continue to be wrong, both in your accusation and presentation of fact.
so many drama queens in this thread.
This is ridiculous and melodramatic. I agree that Thunder has spoken in some unwarranted absolutes in some of his posts, but you're overreacting and putting yourself on a high horse that you haven't earned.Thunder has a hard-on for the plight of the black man. He seems to think we need to get down on our knees and beg for a modicum of respect because of **** my ancestors had no part in, simply because we're white and the black man isn't. Screw that. I respect the black man enough not to pretend I need to see forgiveness for **** he knows I didn't do. I respect the black man enough to know he's strong and smart and just as able as he wants to be. I'm not going to discount the rest of history to put the plight of black men on a pedestal to gain PC points. It's 2011. You can stand right next to me in line for my job and I'll still hope I get selected, but not because you're black...but rather because I want the job and I'm up against (assumedly) good competition.
No...clinging to the white people are evil and black people were the only opressed and we should CONTINUE to relive 1776 in 2011..
i'm not being dramatic, i'm being something else....you're one to talk.
Why should people whose ancestors weren't even a part of the race issues in the past be punished/not given preferences?