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Get White Boy Drunk: Is That Racist?

White Boy Drunk: Racist or Not?


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Black people call each other 'nigger' all the time.
Is that okay? What if white people did it to each other? Think some people would have a conniption?
 
Really? Please cite some cases where people are calling each other racially offenses names without being racist.

A good portion of black people call each other "nigga" quite often. Now, you can argue that "nigga" is different than "nigger", but if a white guy in a suit calls a black guy "nigga" you can bet the black man would scream racism....but when used amongst themselves it isn't so.
 
Is that okay?

Yes. It really is ok. Most of my friends 'of color' call me their 'nig'. It's all good.

What if white people did it to each other?

So what if we did? I just don't understand why you get hung up on a term of endearment between friends and totally ignore the alcohol abuse they're celebrating with "white-boy drunk". If we're going to ignore the drug abuse then of course were going to give racial slurs a pass.

Think some people would have a conniption?

They can go file an EO complaint. I could give a ****.
 
yes, and this is a sad example of black self-loathing.

Or maybe it's empowerment. Taking a word people have used against you and turning it into a tongue-in-cheek manner of addressing one another? Kind of like that joke in The Longest Yard about the guy having "slave feet" because he doesn't wear shoes. The joke was made by a black man to a black man. You seem to have this, "oh, no. Poor widdle blacks have no self-esteem or desire to achieve because mean ol' whitey has turned them into self-loathing fear mongers" mentality. Perhaps it's not so. Perhaps, thanks to empowering blacks from all folds most blacks don't feel downtrodden or inferior and so they mock the very actions and words which made them inferior in the first place.

Really, the difference between you and me is you sympathize with blacks and think they feel worthless, you defend them because you think you understand some sorry existence in which ill-understanding white folk aren't sensitive enough. I don't sympathize with them because I think they can do whatever the hell I can do (and sometimes a whole hell of a lot more), and don't need my almost-racist-in-itself pity to coddle or boost them to a different position in life.
 
A good portion of black people call each other "nigga" quite often. Now, you can argue that "nigga" is different than "nigger", but if a white guy in a suit calls a black guy "nigga" you can bet the black man would scream racism....but when used amongst themselves it isn't so.

I understand that double standard and I don't even call my friends 'of color' my nig. Blacks don't have a history of owning whites as slaves in America. Our histories are different so of course the context of our statements will be different.

Now, yeah, if you want to be a PC then I agree 'brothah' is a much better term to use, but out in the real world people talk how they want.
 
Is that okay? What if white people did it to each other? Think some people would have a conniption?
Some groups of white people do...its...sad...really...very very sad. OK...funny as hell too...but still. Sad.
 
yes, and this is a sad example of black self-loathing.

You are the Fucking Idiot of the Century.

It's not self-loathing. They are taking power away from the word when they use it. It is the context it is used in that is important.
 
I understand that double standard and I don't even call my friends 'of color' my nig. Blacks don't have a history of owning whites as slaves in America. Our histories are different so of course the context of our statements will be different.

Now, yeah, if you want to be a PC then I agree 'brothah' is a much better term to use, but out in the real world people talk how they want.
Nope...Brother, brutha, bro, and brah have all also been declared as racist when used by whites as well. So...basically...
 
Nope...Brother, brutha, bro, and brah have all also been declared as racist when used by whites as well. So...basically...

Is it racist or is it sexist to call black men "girl"?
 
I understand that double standard and I don't even call my friends 'of color' my nig. Blacks don't have a history of owning whites as slaves in America. Our histories are different so of course the context of our statements will be different.

Now, yeah, if you want to be a PC then I agree 'brothah' is a much better term to use, but out in the real world people talk how they want.

I've said before in other threads, but I'm of the opinion that a word has absolutely no power unless I give it that power. That doesn't mean I can't be respectful of somebody who does give the word power (i.e. avoiding the word "nigger" in mixed company). I don't, however, ascribe to the belief that a word is always racist or always harmful, or must always be avoided because it is sometimes used in a derogatory or hateful fashion.
 
Is it racist or is it sexist to call black men "girl"?
Depends on how swishy gay they are...some probably would like it. Especially if you followed it with 'friend'. But again...that applies to some white men as well...
 
...It's not self-loathing. They are taking power away from the word when they use it. It is the context it is used in that is important.

no, blacks calling each other "nigger", making jokes and insulting each other on who has the blacker skin, calling each other "boy", is a great example of the self-loathing that was been developed in black culture...which started during slavery.

its a terrible thing, which makes me very sad.
 
I've said before in other threads, but I'm of the opinion that a word has absolutely no power unless I give it that power. That doesn't mean I can't be respectful of somebody who does give the word power (i.e. avoiding the word "nigger" in mixed company). I don't, however, ascribe to the belief that a word is always racist or always harmful, or must always be avoided because it is sometimes used in a derogatory or hateful fashion.

You should avoid "nigger" altogether. You never know in today's world who has black or biracial people in their families.
 
no, blacks calling each other "nigger", making jokes and insulting each other on who has the blacker skin, calling each other "boy", is a great example of the self-loathing that was been developed in black culture...which started during slavery.

its a terrible thing, which makes me very sad.

Why do YOU feel so sad? Why do you have such an attachment to this Thunder?
 
no, blacks calling each other "nigger", making jokes and insulting each other on who has the blacker skin, calling each other "boy", is a great example of the self-loathing that was been developed in black culture...which started during slavery.

its a terrible thing, which makes me very sad.

So if I call my blond haired, blue eyed, pale skinned friend an "albino" I am really hating myself?
 
Why do YOU feel so sad? Why do you have such an attachment to this Thunder?

i don't feel sad. but it makes me sad when I see black people call each other nigger and insult each other by saying "your mom is soo black.."
 
You should avoid "nigger" altogether. You never know in today's world who has black or biracial people in their families.

I have three cousins who have a black father who use the word "nigger" (not "nigga") pretty damned often. In fact, I'd say they say it more than I ever have. I'm not going to avoid a word altogether (your use isn't doing that, by the way) simply because some people think the word is offensive. If you can't talk about an issue it'll never go away. If I have a good black friend and I want to discuss the connotations of the word I should have no fear that they'll take offense merely because the word is mentioned.

Then again, I don't go around using racial epithets to describe people, which is perhaps what you actually meant.
 
So if I call my blond haired, blue eyed, pale skinned friend an "albino" I am really hating myself?

I have no idea if that would mean you hate yourself.

but the fact is that black self-hatred has its roots in slavery.
 
i don't feel sad. but it makes me sad when I see black people call each other nigger and insult each other by saying "your mom is soo black.."

Did you ever bother to ask them why? Or do you just make stupid assumptions about their motivations because you have a biased sense of the state of Black America?
 
I have three cousins who have a black father who use the word "nigger" (not "nigga") pretty damned often. In fact, I'd say they say it more than I ever have. I'm not going to avoid a word altogether (your use isn't doing that, by the way) simply because some people think the word is offensive. If you can't talk about an issue it'll never go away. If I have a good black friend and I want to discuss the connotations of the word I should have no fear that they'll take offense merely because the word is mentioned.

Then again, I don't go around using racial epithets to describe people, which is perhaps what you actually meant.

Of course that's what I meant. :doh
 
I have no idea if that would mean you hate yourself.

but the fact is that black self-hatred has its roots in slavery.
Richard Prior was such a racist! And he influenced so many other young comedic racists. Its sad...very sad...
 
I have no idea if that would mean you hate yourself.

but the fact is that black self-hatred has its roots in slavery.

So are you saying that the black mind is inferior to mine and that's why you can read their minds?
 
i don't feel sad. but it makes me sad when I see black people call each other nigger and insult each other by saying "your mom is soo black.."
This is again an example where relativity is required. Black people calling each other nigger is not always a sign of internalized racism. It depends on the person and how they use it. I do agree with you that when blacks make fun of each other for having dark skin or "bad hair" it's internalized racism, but it's not really that much different from white people who think that pale skin is ugly so they have to go to the tanning salon every week. There's just a lot of general insecurity in the world.
 
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