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    Re: Get White Boy Drunk: Is That Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Or rather, we've made points that discredit or correspond to the idiocy we've seen throughout this thread...but since you appear to agree with a lot of that idiocy you wouldn't catch it, would you?
    That's the problem, you think you've discredited my and others' arguments...but you haven't even addressed our arguments. You've simply made some up, attributed them to us and argued against them and you don't even know it. That's what people keep trying to tell you. Like I said earlier, you can step of your high horse because it hasn't been earned.

    In sum:
    1. Slavery happened.
    2. Many traders and slave owners viewed slaves as inferior because of their race.
    3. The history of racial inequality has left a legacy on the United States which is not erased by "white trash" or the potential enslavement of Greeks which you have tried to steer the conversation towards.
    4. Even so, racial inequality and race relations have gotten better in time.
    5. Nonetheless, certain words and phrases still have racist connotations (re: the actual topic of this thread).
    6. Telling people some variation of "get over it" and "blacks sold slaves so it's no big deal" and "white people were poor too" and "i respect black men unlike you" does nothing to get rid of those realities.

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    Re: Get White Boy Drunk: Is That Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Did I ever make a general statement that white people had it hard? No, I did not.
    Not racially inferior, but socially inferior, yes we do. Indentured servitude and oppression on the basis of financial status was incredibly rampant in this country for quite some time. - tessaesque
    White people made white people inferior to themselves before white people made black people inferior to themselves....in the contexts of American history. - tessaesque
    They were denied the same rights and discounted in the same ways as blacks were. To this day, you still have "white trash" white people: - tessaesque
    Tell that to the 1/3 of the US that's on welfare or near poverty. You know, the same group you keep claiming can't get out of their financial position? -tessaesque

    Need I go on?

    Your whole premise is poor white people were inferior for slightly different reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I said white people were made to be inferior on the basis of their financial ability. And that's true. As far as what you indicated in red, you're either ignoring Thunder's posts or picking on mine, because he's not only implied it, he's directly said it here and in other areas.

    But really, it's okay. You can think what the hell every you want. Much like Thunder's, your opinion on my credibility doesn't matter.
    You have a nice day.

    PS I don't think the comment was racist. Of course I don't see racism in every comment that makes light of someones race like far to many idiots.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Get White Boy Drunk: Is That Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    ...Your whole premise is poor white people were inferior for slightly different reason.

    You have a nice day.
    even worse, his premise is that poor white people have it as bad as blacks under slavery & segregation.

    he is either WILDLY exaggerating the suffering of poor whites, or totally diminishing the horrors & oppresion of slavery & Jim Crow.

    either way, his argument is crap.

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    Re: Get White Boy Drunk: Is That Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    It is special treatment when in the OP that black couple can say such a thing and not be ostracized, yet if a white couple said the exact equivalent it would.

    THAT is special treatment.
    DING DING DING.
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    Which brings me to my thoughts on the actual opening post scenario, people's reactions to it, and the complexities of race relations made harder and harder every year.

    Throughout this thread, Thunder and others have consistently reminded us of different words, phrases, or conversations that are "racist" that others here are either learning for the first time, don't agree, or do agree with. The problem with this lies in that this makes communication between folks of different races very difficult, and more difficult each year as a new concept gets "turned racist". All this does it make it more difficult for people of different races to find friendship and blend well together in society, creating a social "segregation". And rightfully so. Why would I want to seek out friendship with someone who will be looking to take anything I say as something racist or racially offensive even if I didn't mean it that way? Society's social structure when it comes to these "racist concepts" is getting so confusing that I am beginning to believe they need to make a manual on it, and make it a required class in high school alongside of civics and algebra in order to obtain your diploma. One example I learned recently that I can only accuse on the recent plight of illegal immigrants is that it is apparently "Racist" to mention english being the predominant language in the USA. Since when is this "racist". Somehow the concept of the english language has turned into a "racist concept". Not to mention imagery that is now considered racist. The classic game, Hangman, is now Racist? WTF?? Since when? Im sorry, blacks were NOT the first people to be hanged. In fact, the amount of whites hanged at the hands of other whites FAR, FAR, FAR outweighs the amount of blacks hanged at the hands of whites.

    I started rambling, but the point I am trying to make is that all these little racist concepts, phrases, images, ideas are not doing us ANY favors in trying to merge races together socially, and in fact create quite a divide.

    I shouldn't have to have a manual on how not to offend someone ACCIDENTALLY just to communicate or even befriend someone of a different race.
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    Re: Get White Boy Drunk: Is That Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    even worse, his premise is that poor white people have it as bad as blacks under slavery & segregation.

    he is either WILDLY exaggerating the suffering of poor whites, or totally diminishing the horrors & oppresion of slavery & Jim Crow.

    either way, his argument is crap.
    I don't know if whites had it as bad in the US as did blacks under JC and slavery. Only because I am not well versed on that particular subject. On the surface I would say no. My point however was she came out swinging the race card for the wrong reasons and did not have a good grasp of what was being said.

    I do know in this era it is time for my brothers and sisters to pull themselves up and do what they need to do and stop using excuses. Racism, inequality and slavery are no longer excuses for failure, period.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Get White Boy Drunk: Is That Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    It is special treatment when in the OP that black couple can say such a thing and not be ostracized, yet if a white couple said the exact equivalent it would.

    THAT is special treatment.
    No that's not special treatment. That's context.

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    Re: Get White Boy Drunk: Is That Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    No that's not special treatment. That's context.
    Ah, there is that special word that makes the same action acceptable for some yet not for others. Beautiful.

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    Re: Get White Boy Drunk: Is That Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    It is special treatment when in the OP that black couple can say such a thing and not be ostracized, yet if a white couple said the exact equivalent it would.

    THAT is special treatment.
    Jesus, what's next? are you going to complain about the fact that its more socially acceptable for blacks to call each other "niggers", while white people can do this?

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    Re: Get White Boy Drunk: Is That Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Ah, there is that special word that makes the same action acceptable for some yet not for others. Beautiful.
    ah, so context, history, social-dynamics, mean nothing to you.

    well, this is the real world, and in the real world...these things matter.

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    Re: Get White Boy Drunk: Is That Racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    even worse, his premise is that poor white people have it as bad as blacks under slavery & segregation.

    he is either WILDLY exaggerating the suffering of poor whites, or totally diminishing the horrors & oppresion of slavery & Jim Crow.

    either way, his argument is crap.
    No, the premise is that poor white people today have it as bad as poor black people today, not that they had it as bad as black people under Jim Crow laws or slavery. It should be about what makes a statement racist or not, which honestly should be the intention behind the statement, not just the way the statement is perceived due to what did happen in the past due to racism. We are talking about what happens to people today and why. This is what the conversation should be about, instead of what happened 60+ years ago and before.
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