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Get White Boy Drunk: Is That Racist?

White Boy Drunk: Racist or Not?

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Wake said:
I should istate it as this: Sop using the past as a reason to dredge up racial tension in the present. I do not see American Indians who, at every chance, create racial tensions against the white folk.
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I never do that so pick that fight with someone else. We're talking about history. If you can't handle it, gtfo.
 
Thunder said:
then WHY do you apply this only to black people?

what about Jews? what about Armenians? what about the Irish?
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Because that's where the conversation went, dude. Jesus christ, do you ever stop?
 
Wake said:
...I should state it as this: Stop using the past as a reason to dredge up racial tension in the present. I do not see American Indians who, at every chance, create racial tensions against the white folk.
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perhaps they should, as many of them still live in horrible poverty on reservations and have millions of acres of land and billions of dollars owed to them.

the squeeky wheel gets the oil.
 
Blackdog said:
Those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it, period.
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Not Period.

We can remember the past without having to constantly be told we owe something to make up for the past.
 
theplaydrive said:
Would you say that about any other discussion of history? I find it odd that one of the only times people say some variation of "we must let loose of the past" is when we're talking about the history of blacks and racism in this country. Nobody ever says that when in a discussion about the enlightenment or the revolutionary war.

We're discussing history. Just because this part of history is more controversial doesn't mean it shouldn't be talked about.
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Conversely, why should black people recieve such special treatment and preference for what happened in the past, and demonize the white man...

...yet there have been many other such tragedies?

Egypt over a millenia ago had slaves. Do we demonize Egyptians/ How long will the white man be so demonized for what white people did over 200 years ago? Will it take 2-3,000 years?
 
tessaesque said:
And remembering history is completely different than obsessing over history or using history as a justification for being an apologist.

Do you want somebody who says you, "you know...I'll bet your life is really, really hard. I mean, being black must be incredibly difficult and you must suffer so much for it. I really wish I could to more to boost you up."

Or, do you want somebody who says, "Hey, you graduate from FSU? Awesome, what's your major, do you like it? How's the wife and kids?"

In other words, you want to be pitied and identified as a down trodden black man, or do you want to be respected and viewed as an indedendent, hardworking, contributing member of society? We don't have to forget slavery for the second choice, but we damn sure have to obsess over it for the first
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Your response had absolutely nothing to do with anything I said or implied. I actually agree with this comment, the problem is no one has said the part highlighted in red but you, in a few posts now. You do not understand what was being said and played the race card almost right off the bat. Oh I am white and we had it as hard etc... His point was about racial inequality which does and did exist. You tried to make a rather stupid comparison using what? "white trash???"

I am sorry you have lost all credibility on this issue.
 
Thunder said:
no, but neither were 6 million Jews. please go back on your research of the Holocaust.
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really?:

2. How many Jews were murdered during the Holocaust?


Answer: While it is impossible to ascertain the exact number of Jewish victims, statistics indicate that the total was over 5,860,000. Six million is the round figure accepted by most authorities.

36 Questions About the Holocaust (1-18)
 
Thunder said:
what about crimes that occured...say...66 years ago?

should we forget about those crimes and just move on? let bygones be bygones?
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Yes.....





Absolutely.
 
Caine said:
Not Period.

We can remember the past without having to constantly be told we owe something to make up for the past.
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This. Thank you. This is what I am saying.
 
Caine said:
Not Period.

We can remember the past without having to constantly be told we owe something to make up for the past.
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Yes period. Your comment has nothing to do with my statement. Please point out where I mentioned anything about anyone owing anyone anything? Or anyone else in this thread so far???
 
tessaesque said:
really?:...
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yes, really.

6 million Jews were not burned to death.

around 3 million died in the concentration camps due to starvation, gassing, shooting, and death by disease. the other around 3 million died at the hands of the Einsatzgruppen, who went from town to town shooting Jews by the tens of thousands and dumping the bodies in mass-graves, throughout the western sections of the USSR.

again, you need to research the Holocaust just a bit more.
 
theplaydrive said:
Would you say that about any other discussion of history? I find it odd that one of the only times people say some variation of "we must let loose of the past" is when we're talking about the history of blacks and racism in this country. Nobody ever says that when in a discussion about the enlightenment or the revolutionary war.

We're discussing history. Just because this part of history is more controversial doesn't mean it shouldn't be talked about.
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LoL.

Last I remember the USA and the UK got along pretty good.

We celebrate our birth as a nation (remembering) , but we aren't pissed at the British (forgive).
 
Blackdog said:
Your response had absolutely nothing to do with anything I said or implied. I actually agree with this comment, the problem is no one has said the part highlighted in red but you, in a few posts now. You do not understand what was being said and played the race card almost right off the bat. Oh I am white and we had it as hard etc... His point was about racial inequality which does and did exist. You tried to make a rather stupid comparison using what? "white trash???"

I am sorry you have lost all credibility on this issue.
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Did I ever make a general statement that white people had it hard? No, I did not. I said white people were made to be inferior on the basis of their financial ability. And that's true. As far as what you indicated in red, you're either ignoring Thunder's posts or picking on mine, because he's not only implied it, he's directly said it here and in other areas.

But really, it's okay. You can think what the hell every you want. Much like Thunder's, your opinion on my credibility doesn't matter.
 
Wake said:
Conversely, why should black people recieve such special treatment and preference for what happened in the past, and demonize the white man...

...yet there have been many other such tragedies?

Egypt over a millenia ago had slaves. Do we demonize Egyptians/ How long will the white man be so demonized for what white people did over 200 years ago? Will it take 2-3,000 years?
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I don't know, ask the people who actually suggest these things.

What you, Tess and others have done in this entire thread is pull issues out of your ass that the people you're talking to have not brought up and then frame your arguments around them without actually addressing what's being said.

No one's saying blacks should have special treatment. Read.
 
Thunder said:
yes, really.

6 million Jews were not burned to death.

around 3 million died in the concentration camps due to starvation, gassing, shooting, and death by disease. the other around 3 million died at the hands of the Einsatzgruppen, who went from town to town shooting Jews by the tens of thousands and dumping the bodies in mass-graves, throughout the western sections of the USSR.

again, you need to research the Holocaust just a bit more.
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Right. And your hypocrisy knows no bounds. Have a great life, dude.
 
theplaydrive said:
No one's saying blacks should have special treatment.
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It is special treatment when in the OP that black couple can say such a thing and not be ostracized, yet if a white couple said the exact equivalent it would.

THAT is special treatment.
 
Wake said:
It is special treatment when in the OP that black couple can say such a thing and not be ostracized, yet if a white couple said the exact equivalent it would.

THAT is special treatment.
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you are purposefully & ignorantly confusing special treatment with understanding context & racial/social dynamics.
 
theplaydrive said:
I don't know, ask the people who actually suggest these things.

What you, Tess and others have done in this entire thread is pull issues out of your ass that the people you're talking to have not brought up and then frame your arguments around them without actually addressing what's being said.

No one's saying blacks should have special treatment. Read.
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Or rather, we've made points that discredit or correspond to the idiocy we've seen throughout this thread...but since you appear to agree with a lot of that idiocy you wouldn't catch it, would you?

This statement is more ignorant than anything you think I've "made up", or "pulled out of my ass". If you fail to see the legitimacy of the arguments made then that's your problem, not ours.
 
tessaesque said:
Did I ever make a general statement that white people had it hard? No, I did not. I said white people were made to be inferior on the basis of their financial ability. And that's true. As far as what you indicated in red, you're either ignoring Thunder's posts or picking on mine, because he's not only implied it, he's directly said it here and in other areas.
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But why is any of this relevant? Just like why was your point about Greeks and Scandinavians relevant? You seem to be bringing up issues that have no relevance to the conversation simply as a means of saying "racial inequality wasn't that bad or particular, so shut up about it", but why are you trying to make that point? Is it possible to discuss racial inequality without turning it into an attempt to pretend that racial inequality and slavery were really no big deal.
 
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