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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Maybe not all the 1% ... yet the clearly you have not spent time around the uber rich or followed how they have manipulated markets, depleted natural resources and view you with total disregard.


    The uber-rich have so much wealth that they believe can insulate themselves from any collapse above everyone else, with their gated and moated communities, multiple homes multi million $ in multiple climates, access to water, security, private jets and general insensitivity to the price of anything — and hence insensitivity to the value of everything.

    While I do not demonize the entire 1% there is a very real and manipulative segment that welcomes the shrinking middle class and they gain off of each crisis and feel insulated from the shrinking natural and financial resources.
    Without granting your argument, I have a question about this statement. Do you really think the answer is waging battle with them or redistributing what they have? Both of those choices scare me for many reasons. Working on the hypothetical that you are right, I think the answer lies in finding solutions without government and without battle. If it is really 99% of the population who feel this way, I think some working together would create more solutions.

    I'm very uncomfortable with the whole approach of 99 vs 1. It doesn't send a message of solutions, it sends a message of conflict.

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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    I'm very uncomfortable with the whole approach of 99 vs 1. It doesn't send a message of solutions, it sends a message of conflict.
    Bingo. That's what they want.


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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    Without granting your argument, I have a question about this statement. Do you really think the answer is waging battle with them or redistributing what they have?
    That isn't what OWS wants. That's what Fox pundit types want you to believe they are after, but it has nothing to do with OWS. It's just their standard boogieman. Everything they don't like on Fox they brand communism and start tossing out conspiracy theories.

    What OWS wants is to eliminate the special advantages the rich are being given over everybody else.

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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    Communists are part of this group. Communists are leaders of this group. Communists are speakers of this group.

    Are all people in the group communists? Of course not.

    But to say that people are just "crying communist" for the sake of creating some sort of fear or something is entirely false. Communists (and Nazis, by the way) are part of this group. And many of the leaders (from the website, those who called for Sep 17 "day of rage", the creators and editors of the newspaper) have some very creepy goals for this country. To deny that is to deny reality.


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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Sorry. I won't participate in this little civil war. If you want to whine about how some people have more money than you, then knock yourself out.

    But just a quick question....who are you supporting for President in 2012? A person who won't "deplete natural resources"?
    I am not "whining" and the issue being discussed is not about a person with higher income than another ... I am in the top 2% of income earners and pay 33% federal income tax ... I am deeply in the 99%.

    I do not think you understood my post ... and those making multi millions and billions by depleting non renewable resources and manipulating markets ... those corporations and foreign dollars should not have more influence of our electoral process than We the People.

    However, no one was soliciting for anyone to participate in a civil war ... It was a poll. If you are satisfied with the status quo that is up to you.

    However ... if you think the uber elite are with you while they gain from manipulating markets and various crisis and depleting resources ... you are ignorant of reality.
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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    I am not "whining" and the issue being discussed is not about a person with higher income than another ... I am in the top 2% of income earners and pay 33% federal income tax ... I am deeply in the 99%.

    I do not think you understood my post ... and those making multi millions and billions by depleting non renewable resources and manipulating markets ... those corporations and foreign dollars should not have more influence of our electoral process than We the People.
    What do you do, if you don't mind me asking?


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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Communists are part of this group. Communists are leaders of this group. Communists are speakers of this group.

    Are all people in the group communists? Of course not.

    But to say that people are just "crying communist" for the sake of creating some sort of fear or something is entirely false. Communists (and Nazis, by the way) are part of this group. And many of the leaders (from the website, those who called for Sep 17 "day of rage", the creators and editors of the newspaper) have some very creepy goals for this country. To deny that is to deny reality.
    Seriously, the Communism fear thing is just silly. You guys have got to drop that. No offense, but it makes you look foolish. Like 0.00001% of the population of the US are communists... I've known one in my life. Or at least that's what he says he is. He came across an authentic Soviet soldier's jacket once at a thrift store and thought it was cool looking, so he wore it to parties and said he was a communist. I think he passed out copies of whatever their paper is called once that he picked up from a stack he found on the floor in a coffee shop, but mostly he just thought it was kind of cool to say he was something shocking. Last I heard he was really into video games and didn't go out much. That's pretty much the state of communism in the US... Really, you find that guy and his like that scary? You guys seem to see communism lurking in every laundry basket and under every bed. It's just silly.
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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    I prefer to make it about liberty. OWS is not about liberty.

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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    No, it's not silly.

    There are major leaders of this movement who are both socialists and communists who want to completely destroy Wall Street. Who created the Occupy Wall Street Journal that is providing information and opinions to the "99%"? Have you ever researched who is in charge of it and what they believe? Who organized the very first protest on Sep 17th that started it all? Who is funding it and what do they believe? Have you ever listened to the professors who are encouraging their students to attend these protests?

    There is no "boogeyman". It's right there in front of your face and for some reason you (and many other sheep) refuse to pay attention to it.


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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    No, it's not silly.

    There are major leaders of this movement who are both socialists and communists who want to completely destroy Wall Street. Who created the Occupy Wall Street Journal that is providing information and opinions to the "99%"? Have you ever researched who is in charge of it and what they believe? Who organized the very first protest on Sep 17th that started it all? Who is funding it and what do they believe? Have you ever listened to the professors who are encouraging their students to attend these protests?

    There is no "boogeyman". It's right there in front of your face and for some reason you (and many other sheep) refuse to pay attention to it.
    Socialism is like a virus. You never really eradicate it. It's just there looking for the next host to infect.

    This group is bit.

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