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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    Oh, gosh, I think Iím a 1%er. About 20% of this forum are 1%ers.

    My parents were poor but smart. My dad was a WWII fighter pilot with metals like 2 Purple Hearts. They became self-employed artists. Junior college for me. Finished with a BS after 4 years in the Air Farce. We have a daughter, expecting our 1st grand kid, with a Masters and a good job. But our son has a serious medical condition, e.g. today he is having an MRI. Even though we have made money working and investing, (Like buying BP when it had the blow out then selling when it recovered. But that does is move money from someone elseís pocket to ours. Kind of like what the 99%ers are complaining about.) and selling property at the right time. Without the health insurances we had and now Social Security and Medicare that our son is on because I did the smart things at the right times (Iím now retired) we would be in financial trouble. And our son would be set up for big medical trouble when we die w/o Social Security and Medicare.

    So, here I am, a 1%er when it comes to wealth, but a POV that is more like a 99%er. What percentage of the population do you think is smart and lucky enough to do what we did? OK then, what do you suggest for the rest of them?

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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I don't see anything that would lead to the conclusion this guy bought more house than he could afford.

    Maybe he's owned it for years and now its worth so much less that he's upside down. Maybe that 70k was invested somewhere that it was lost in the crash.

    I agree about his daughters options with a 4.0 GPA.

    I just take issue with your assumption that everybody who's having a hard time must be a ****up.
    then take heart - because that's not my assumption. there are truly heart wrenching stories in this group. but if this guy's house went down 70K, and that was what destroyed his ability to send his daughter to college, then he had a very poor allocation of resources.

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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    then take heart - because that's not my assumption. there are truly heart wrenching stories in this group. but if this guy's house went down 70K, and that was what destroyed his ability to send his daughter to college, then he had a very poor allocation of resources.
    On this I don't follow - was he suddenly paying more per month on his mortgage because his home was worth less?

    I don't see how that effects his ability to do - well - anything.
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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    You enter the top 1% of income at around $380,000 a year in household income. I know many people who make less than that who consider themselves 1%er's. That is to say, they don't like the ideas they believe the OWS movement has and don't really know where they are economically in actual percentages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Well, your daughter gets to learn a great lesson in life: everything isn't easy. With. 4.0 there are plenty or scholarships that combined with summer work could likely he he'd into an inexpensive state school. If that's not what he'd heart is set on she could take a year off to work and save or go to a year or two of community college cheaper than transfer.

    But no, instead the more responsable and adult thing to do is to bitch at walstreet and assume your she's entitled to go to whatever college she wants immedietely regardless of other factors, one of which MAY (we don't know) havin been created by your own poor choices

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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    But there aren't many, many ideologies LEADING it. And I know about the "people's microphone". It's annoying and stupid.
    Repeating the same mantra over and over again isn't going to help you. There are no ideologies leading it. Just because you posted videos of a few very very select people who might be socialists, does not mean they are leading the movement.

    As for the human microphone being "annoying and stupid" it's actually an ingenius way of having thousands of people hear one person. How is that stupid? I can see why it would be annoying to you though since you obviously have a philosophical difference with the protesters lol.
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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Discuss ...!
    Is this a claim that 99% are below poverty and 1% are not? I think it is silly that the tax the **** out the other guy and not me crowd and the green with envy crowd want to include people who make over a 100,000 into their group. The reason I think it is silly is because these people who make over a 100,000 would be on the lets tax the **** out of the other guy and not me crowd's list. So have to wonder if this 99% is nothing more than B.S.
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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    You know - if 99% of us (pretty much everyone we'll ever know in our lives) is in this '99%' then what is everyone complaining about?

    If all of these people are suffering just like everyone else then what exactly do they think is going to change?
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    Re: The 99 % or 1%?

    I'm more of the bottom 60% ie middle of the road. Like the Tea Party movement, I think it's great they try to get their ideas out there and I think much like the tea party they will shape policy looking forward. My hope is these two extremes will mesh into something that works out for everyone in the future.
    "Weíre going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and thatís crazy." -Reagan

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