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  • Hospitals/medical facilities

    12 36.36%
  • Roads

    22 66.67%
  • K-12 schools

    11 33.33%
  • Universes/colleges

    10 30.30%
  • Municipal buildings

    10 30.30%
  • Privately owned companies

    1 3.03%
  • Privately owned companies

    1 3.03%
  • Should not be used at all

    8 24.24%
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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Most Americans put gas and oil in their cars, too.
    And we go to gas stations to get gas and we go to walmarts, Autozones and other stores to get oil for our cars.

    In some cases it might even be used to generate the electricity that gets sent to their homes.

    Does a huge pipe go across everybody's yard from the refinery to the electricity company?


    If it were a natural gas line, which many Americans use to heat their homes via direct pipelines, would that make a difference?
    A natural gas line connected to someone's house to supply that person's home with natural gas is not the same as a company taking your property to build a huge pipe.
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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    And we go to gas stations to get gas and we go to walmarts, Autozones and other stores to get oil for our cars.

    Does a huge pipe go across everybody's yard from the refinery to the electricity company?

    A natural gas line connected to someone's house to supply that person's home with natural gas is not the same as a company taking your property to build a huge pipe.
    And neither is a small electric line to an individual house the same as a huge transmission tower that that crosses many counties and/or states to bring you your electricity.

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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    For necessary infrastructure exclusively. Roads, airports, etc..
    To echo a comment above, I have yet to see in my adult lifetime a single justifiable use of eminent domain. And municipalities will use "necessary infrastructive" as an excuse too. In the case I observed up very close and very personally, the city wanted to grab over six thousands of rural acreage and not only used a tiny subsidiary airport used by a few private planes and skydivers as an excuse. Renamed it "City of ___ Airport," in fact, and threatened a very well known winery that was part of the acreage that if it didn't play ball, the city would extend the landing strips right over the vineyards.

    Now it's been over ten years. The airport's use hasn't expanded even a little bit, and worse, the state-required necessary services that were promised--sewage and city water lines and fire services--still haven't been delivered. Not even one fire hydrant by the so-called "City" airport.

    In my observation, "eminent domain" is a euphemism for "rapacious land-grab."

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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    First off, eminent domain should only ever be used for publicly owned projects. So I can accept roads, bridges, airports, shipping ports, public schools and universities, municipal buildings, public utilities, and pretty much any other public project.

    However, there should be some caveats to that. There should be a strong and valid reason why that particular piece of land is needed for the project. This should have to be proved either in court or to a neutral arbitrator (if such a thing exists). Then the property should be appraised by a licensed appraiser of the owner's choice, and after that the government should have to pay the appraised value plus say 20 or 25 percent as a way to both compensate the owner for his/her loss and encourage the government to only use such a measure as a last resort.
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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    I only picked roads because roads are the only item listed that will span numerous plots of land owned by numerous people. Any one of which could prevent necessary infrastructure construction by demanding outrageous rates for their land, or not allowing the purchase at all. Beyond that, the other listed items can be built on just about any plot of land with minimal differences.
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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    No one in this country truely OWN's land. Everyone pays rent via property taxes and thier land can be siezed by the government for apparently just about any reason under the sun. Abolish ED for all but the construction of roads imo. Everything else should be bought at market price plus 10-20 percent more and if the owner so FU then the gov is S.O.L.
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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    First off, eminent domain should only ever be used for publicly owned projects. So I can accept roads, bridges, airports, shipping ports, public schools and universities, municipal buildings, public utilities, and pretty much any other public project.

    However, there should be some caveats to that. There should be a strong and valid reason why that particular piece of land is needed for the project. This should have to be proved either in court or to a neutral arbitrator (if such a thing exists). Then the property should be appraised by a licensed appraiser of the owner's choice, and after that the government should have to pay the appraised value plus say 20 or 25 percent as a way to both compensate the owner for his/her loss and encourage the government to only use such a measure as a last resort.
    How are Universities publicly owned?
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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How are Universities publicly owned?
    state universities are publically owned, aren't they?

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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    I only picked roads because roads are the only item listed that will span numerous plots of land owned by numerous people. Any one of which could prevent necessary infrastructure construction by demanding outrageous rates for their land, or not allowing the purchase at all. Beyond that, the other listed items can be built on just about any plot of land with minimal differences.
    This is why I picked roads too. A school, hospital, municipal building or any other building can be built anywhere. So there is no reason to allow eminent domain to be used for those other things.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    state universities are publically owned, aren't they?
    Some of them might be partially subsidized by the state but I do not think the states actually own any of the Universities, even the ones with a state's or city's name in the name of the University.
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