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    12 36.36%
  • Roads

    22 66.67%
  • K-12 schools

    11 33.33%
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    10 30.30%
  • Municipal buildings

    10 30.30%
  • Privately owned companies

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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    Quote Originally Posted by mattillac View Post
    I love how when trump was going on do you want to live in a city where you can't build schools,roads access to hospitals and Stossel brought up the fact he isn't using eminent domain to build those things but to destroy a building a rich guy finds ugly.
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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    There are blighted neighborhoods that are half-vacant; infested with druggies; basically uninhabitable; owned by what we sometimes call slumlords. Well, I think many of these so-called slumlords are overwhelmed by the conditions of the neighborhood, their buildings, and their plight. Even if they wanted to sell these buildings, they couldn't do it because of their present use/condition. When a landlord fails (for whatever reason) to keep up their property, keep criminals out, keep the water running and the sewers working, then I think it makes sense for government to step in, use imminent domain and get rid of these pits. Landlords like it...or not.
    A lot of times when they condemn a property for eminent domain it is not for a blighted neighborhood or house. Its so they can forcefully take the property from the owner at below market price just like what this Canadian company is trying to do in this link http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/us...2&pagewanted=1
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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    A lot of times when they condemn a property for eminent domain it is not for a blighted neighborhood or house. Its so they can forcefully take the property from the owner at below market price just like what this Canadian company is trying to do in this link http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/us...2&pagewanted=1
    A pipeline is exactly what emminent domain is designed to facilitate. I wonder why you think they're trying to acquire "an easement" (which is all they're doing) under market. What's the going rate for an easement? I have to give my electric/cable company an 8-ft easement at the back of my lot for nothing...
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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    A pipeline is exactly what emminent domain is designed to facilitate.
    A oil pipeline owned by a foreign privately owned company?
    I wonder why you think they're trying to acquire "an easement" (which is all they're doing) under market. What's the going rate for an easement? I have to give my electric/cable company an 8-ft easement at the back of my lot for nothing...
    There is a huge difference between a oil pipe line especially one owned by a company in a foreign country and a telephone/electrical pole that provides electricity .
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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    A oil pipeline owned by a foreign privately owned company?

    There is a huge difference between a oil pipe line especially one owned by a company in a foreign country and a telephone/electrical pole that provides electricity .
    I might be with MaggieD on this one. The fact that it will be owned by a private company is a very important consideration, but not the sole consideration. Most telephone and power companies are technically private companies, albeit regulated.

    I have to think about this particular scenario more.
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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I might be with MaggieD on this one. The fact that it will be owned by a private company is a very important consideration, but not the sole consideration. Most telephone and power companies are technically private companies, albeit regulated.

    I have to think about this particular scenario more.
    Telephone and electricity companies use those poles to directly supply you with electricity and power. Last I checked the pipelines do not directly pump oil into your home. These electrical and telephone poles are directly from the power company to your house, just like the gas,water and sewer pipes directly provides your property with those services. What this oil company is doing amounts to a privately owned company seizing part of your property so they can build a space to park their car on it.
    Last edited by jamesrage; 10-19-11 at 06:36 PM.
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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Telephone and electricity companies use those poles to directly supply you with electricity and power. Last I checked the pipelines do not directly pump oil into your home. These electrical and telephone poles are directly from the power company to your house. What this oil company is doing amounts to a privately owned company seizing part of your property so they can build a space to park their car on it.
    Not necessarily.

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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    roads, schools, bridges, tunnels, hospitals, universities, ....basically things that adds to the public good.

    baseball and soccer stadiums? no friggin' way.

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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Not necessarily.
    Most Americans at least get power. Phone and cable lines generally share the same poles as the electrical ones.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: What should eminent domain should be used for?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Most Americans at least get power. Phone and cable lines generally share the same poles as the electrical ones.
    Most Americans put gas and oil in their cars, too. In some cases it might even be used to generate the electricity that gets sent to their homes. If it were a natural gas line, which many Americans use to heat their homes via direct pipelines, would that make a difference?

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