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Can You Forgive Mel Gibson.

Can you forgive Mel?

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 60.0%
  • No

    Votes: 6 30.0%
  • Maybe if...

    Votes: 2 10.0%

  • Total voters
    20
Is this really a question? I can't believe I actually even read this thread and bothered to reply...
 
Can I forgive Mel for being an asshat? Sure, assuming he ever stops being an asshat. Until he can do that, why bother?
 
You're claiming Mel Gibson has don something to each member of DP, personally, for each of us to then need to forgive him. I would like to know why you think this.

exactly......but will i pay to see his movies? no, because he's the highest order of assclown.
 
Who cares what Mel Gibson, Rosie O'Donnell, Toby Keith, Natalie Mane, Morgan Freedman, or any other person in the entertainment industry has to say about political issues or racism or similar issues. They are people just like us - they don't make laws. They have free speech rights just like us.

Was Gibson's rant over-the-top. Yes. If it is a deal-breaker for you, don't buy his product.

I don't believe the Holocaust gives Jews/Israel a free pass to do whatever from now on. They can be criticized for their actions by reasonable people who are not anti-Semitic just as the US can be criticized for things like Gitmo without being anti-American.
 
exactly......but will i pay to see his movies? no, because he's the highest order of assclown.

I sure will, because he's a fantastic actor.

I go to movies for entertainment, not politics. You can be a total douche and I'll still watch your movie if it's good......just like how the public vote a 'community organizer' (I still don't know wtf that is, btw) into the white-house even-though he's grossly unqualified and his policies place the country in economic danger...he vents for you, and that gives you your dopamine high, so you naturally support your drug dealer and give him the office.

Mel Gibson's movies do-it for me, so I couldn't care less what he says in the real world.
 
Who cares what Mel Gibson, Rosie O'Donnell, Toby Keith, Natalie Mane, Morgan Freedman, or any other person in the entertainment industry has to say about political issues or racism or similar issues. They are people just like us - they don't make laws. They have free speech rights just like us.

Was Gibson's rant over-the-top. Yes. If it is a deal-breaker for you, don't buy his product.

I don't believe the Holocaust gives Jews/Israel a free pass to do whatever from now on. They can be criticized for their actions by reasonable people who are not anti-Semitic just as the US can be criticized for things like Gitmo without being anti-American.

true, don't see his movies. but don't equate his anti-semitism, which is REAL, to criticizing israel for some of their policy decisions. apples and oranges.
 
You mean forgive him for this stuff he said to the mother of his child?

You look like a f****** bitch in heat. And if you get raped by a pack of n****'s, it'll be your fault.

Shut the f*** up. You should just f****** smile and blow me.

You don't apologize for nothing? Well then, you're a dishonest c***.

I need a woman, not a ****ing little girl with a f****** dysfunctional c***.

I don't need medication. You need a f****** bat on the side of the head. Alright?

I mean LEAVE c***, bitch, golddigger, c*** whore. And that's what you are.

Why don't you f*** off to that bitch Alyssia? She was f****** making eyes at me. She'd have *%@*! me in five seconds.

I'll put you in a f****** rose garden, c***. You understand that? Because I'm capable of it.

You don't f****** count, You're a f****** using whore.

Go look after my child, you f****** c*** whore. I hope she doesn't turn out like you.

Or just his drunken anti-Jewish rant when he was arrested? You know, when he said he owned Malibu and would spend all his money ruining the cop who arrested him for drunk driving.

What's he done to deserve it? He's a drunk, at the very least. Did he go to rehab? I don't know. Did he make amends to the mother of his child? He fought a settlement with her (child support) for two years.

Personally, until he's made big-time amends, I hope he never works again.
 
You mean forgive him for this stuff he said to the mother of his child?

He could have beaten his wife in front of his child and Patriot is still a good movie.

Or just his drunken anti-Jewish rant when he was arrested?

He could have personally operated gas chambers and Braveheart is still a classic.

You know, when he said he owned Malibu and would spend all his money ruining the cop who arrested him for drunk driving.

He could actually kill a cop and Ransom is still a fantastic drama.

What's he done to deserve it?

The only thing he's don to me is give me great movies to watch and the occasional TMZ headline to chuckle at. There's nothing to forgive.

He's a drunk, at the very least. Did he go to rehab? I don't know. Did he make amends to the mother of his child? He fought a settlement with her (child support) for two years.

Not anyone's business, either.

Personally, until he's made big-time amends, I hope he never works again.

We, his loyal fan base, will keep his child-support paid.
 
true, don't see his movies. but don't equate his anti-semitism, which is REAL, to criticizing israel for some of their policy decisions. apples and oranges.
I wasn't trying to say Gibson's comments fell in the 'reasonable criticism' category - that is why I said they were over-the-top.

The point I was trying to make is that reasonable people can believe that the US's unwavering support for Israel's treatment of the Palestinians might not be such a good idea. Nearly every time I say this, I get labeled anti-Semitic (dumped in the same barrel with Gibson) As you say, apples and oranges.
 
You're claiming Mel Gibson has don something to each member of DP, personally, for each of us to then need to forgive him. I would like to know why you think this.

I didn't claim anything of the sort and if you think I implied that then you've really read more into the question than is intended.
 
I didn't claim anything of the sort and if you think I implied that then you've really read more into the question than is intended.

Well now I'm even more confused, then. If Mel Gibson hasn't don anything to us, why ask if we can forgive him?
 
Well now I'm even more confused, then. If Mel Gibson hasn't don anything to us, why ask if we can forgive him?

Ask the people above that can't forgive him.
 
Ask the people above that can't forgive him.

Oh they're just trolling the thread by feigning having been offended. It's quite arrogant of them yet quite obvious. I'm counter-trolling them by asserting my unwavering support for Mell in the face of everything they're supposedly mad at him about, acknowledging every negative/bad thing Mell has ever said or did and saying that I'll watch his movies anyway. They are good movies, though.

We're all just trolling each-other, and me of you, by challenging the premise of your question; yet you returned the toll by faking ignorance of what a premise is and then using a mini scorched-earth-denial tactic.

And it's all good, btw. No hard feelings. Business as usual.
 
Mel Gibson is an asshat. It's not like he just made a mistake once and is sincerely sorry; he has a pattern of doing this kind of crap, and he'll probably do it again in the future. Although I agree with those who are saying that he doesn't need *our* forgiveness, I think he's a lowlife.

Jerry said:
I sure will, because he's a fantastic actor.

Mel Gibson's movies suck too.
 
:shrug: I didn't give a **** in the first place.

Yeah, I really could care less about his views, so I've got nothing to forgive. He's an actor, an idiot (which goes along with actor) and therefore prone to doing and saying stupid and moronic things. At least he didn't like, go hang out with the vietcong or anything during a war. Mel just did the standard "stupid actor" move.... :shrug:
 
There were rumors that Mel's talk was baited or manipulated. Supposedly between his speaking and hers, the frequency sound waves were quite different.
 
Yeah, I really could care less about his views, so I've got nothing to forgive. He's an actor, an idiot (which goes along with actor) and therefore prone to doing and saying stupid and moronic things. At least he didn't like, go hang out with the vietcong or anything during a war. Mel just did the standard "stupid actor" move.... :shrug:


Yeah, that, pretty much. I was disappointed a bit; I'd kinda dared hope he was a smidge better than the typical Hollywood moron. But, it isn't like half of hollywood hasn't gone off on a stupid tear at some point. Mel just happened to push all the wrong buttons to get crucified in the media... not to mention having political and religious positions unlikely to make him Mr Popular in Hellywood.

I've pretty much lost all respect for him as a person, but I still enjoy his movies. There's a lot of actors who I think are cretins with the morals of a baboon, but if their art is good then that is what I pay to see in the theater.

I never was into the "cult of personality" for actors, singers, or sports figures. IMO they should act, sing and play respectively and otherwise keep their yaps shut if they know what's good for them. Neither Morgan Freeman nor Sir Alec Guiness carries weight with me in politics, because their field of expertise is acting. Nor am I overly interested in their personal lives... not really my business.

I did cross Mel off my invitation list for my spring BBQ event... I can't abide mouthy drunks. :mrgreen:
 
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