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    Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?
    depends if it is a victimless "crime" or one that harms other people

    refusing to register for an unjust (they all are IMHO) draft or burning a draft card is a valid method of protest

    blocking streets so others are inconvenienced is not



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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?
    It's definitely valid. Of course if it's not for a good cause then public support for it tends to be quite low.

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    If you have a permit its civil obedience



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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    blocking streets so others are inconvenienced is not
    I've debated this in my mind many times. At the very least, it is not the most well thought out strategy. Making me late for whatever I'm doing does not make me want to be sympathetic to your cause.

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Yes, it is, in some instances not the smartest, but it's still valid.
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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude
    depends if it is a victimless "crime" or one that harms other people....refusing to register for an unjust (they all are IMHO) draft or burning a draft card is a valid method of protest....blocking streets so others are inconvenienced is not
    What TD said except I would raise the standard for it being OK from 'inconvenienced' to actual harm (vandalism, theft, assault, etc.)
    Last edited by Frolicking Dinosaurs; 10-15-11 at 10:39 PM.

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    What TD said except I would raise the standard for it being OK from 'inconvenienced' to actual harm (vandalism, theft, assault, etc.)
    missing work can be actual harm

    losing business can be actual harm



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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    depends if it is a victimless "crime" or one that harms other people

    refusing to register for an unjust (they all are IMHO) draft or burning a draft card is a valid method of protest

    blocking streets so others are inconvenienced is not
    I actually think this is pretty accurate. Burning and looting buildings to protest(ala Detroit when I was a kid), that is not a valid method of protest. Blocking the entrance to a business you don't like and are protesting, sure, as long as you are willing to accept the legal consequences. I do not have a lot of sympathy for protesters who run afoul of police, who are usually in a difficult position and doing their absolute best.

    It should also be noted that in this day and age, I tend to think that peaceful, legal protests are more effective and useful than any civil disobedience.
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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I actually think this is pretty accurate. Burning and looting buildings to protest(ala Detroit when I was a kid), that is not a valid method of protest. Blocking the entrance to a business you don't like and are protesting, sure, as long as you are willing to accept the legal consequences. I do not have a lot of sympathy for protesters who run afoul of police, who are usually in a difficult position and doing their absolute best.

    It should also be noted that in this day and age, I tend to think that peaceful, legal protests are more effective and useful than any civil disobedience.
    Burning and looting buildings is NOT Civil Disobedience?? Keyword here is civil.
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