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Thread: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
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    So you think it's okay for a bunch of filthy bastards to defile private property etc. and the most of them are too damn stupid to even know why they are there, because they are dumb-assed liberals who play follow the leader and in this case it's Obama who started the BS class wars in hope of just such an event.
    These protesters are breaking a number if laws and that has nothing to do with my feelings about civil rights. I know more about than you will ever know and there is a way to protest with breaking the law.
    As for the buses it will take buses to haul these fools off.
    Did you know brainiac that 100 of these ignorant fools were interviewed and 34 % said that America was just as bad as Al Queda. In my book that's about enough damn it, these son of beatches don't realize than if they were the Commie society they crave they would all go to prison or a gulag if they lived they the initial attracts.
    Keep your hate speech to your party, mine doesn't buy in to the hate from the Left.
    You are seeing they fringe extrem in reguards to this group. Kinda like the nuts they always show for the Tea Party. Most of the 99% are good decent folks just trying to send a message. Guess what? Writing a frigging letter will not work! It goes right in the damn trash. They are at least DOING SOMETHING!

    I wish to hell I lived closer as I would join em. Of course I have a job but could protest on weekends and help cook food

    BTW.. Where did I spew any hate speech? You gonna get all snippy cause I called YOU out on YOUR HATE towards these folks? Hypocrite!
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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You can't let people decide when and when not to obey laws on their own. Break the law you get arrested. Letting protesters break laws is a path to anarchy.

    I never suggested that. I was just explaining one of the ways that non-violent civil disobedience (including arrests) is an effective form of protest.
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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It depends upon the times and the situations. Much of the time when it is employed in this country, it is ridiculous. People grab onto it to use it to infringe upon the ability of the people to conduct business as usual, armed only with the certitude that they are morally superior.
    How is that any different than any non-violent protest movement throughout history?
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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Valid ≠ Effective ≠ Ethical

    It's valid. Peaceful or non-peaceful - it's still a form of protest. Whether it's effective or ethical depends on the cause and the level of disobedience compared to the cause.

    Personally, I think that "Civil Disobedience" is only truly ethical when it's directed towards government. If it's directed towards or affects other people or legal enterprise, it should be punished to the full extent of the law (those involved should expect it). If it's directed towards government, especially if it leads to change, those involved deserve leniency (after the fact).

    Boycotting and permitted picketing, etc. are, in my opinion, valid, effective and ethical manners of protest against individuals and legal enterprise. If you can't get a permit to picket, then you may need to protest the government about the permitting process.

    Passive resistance is a noble protest against violence and oppression.
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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenvilleGrows View Post

    Passive resistance is a noble protest against violence and oppression.
    Agreed........it is why I am very proud of the protesters for protesting about the economic oppression of the 99% by the 1%.
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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Civil disobediance is a tried and true method of protest. I don't see why there would be any controversy.
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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Requiring people to get a permit to protest is an example of civil disobedience.

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Permits are silly. They are given out when the protest is conveniant to the powers that be. However, the entire point of protests is to be inconveniant to the powers that be. See the problem?
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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?
    I don't know. Maybe you should ask Mahatma Ghandi, Martin Luther King or Henry Thoreau...


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Henry Thoreau...
    "I wish I was still in prison....but my damn Aunt paid my taxes!/looks angrily at Aunt/ Auuuntiiiie! I was making a political and moral point by staying in theeeeeerrreeee!"
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