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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    If you think that? You do not understand what they are trying to do.
    They're trying to destroy our capitalist system.
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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    What TD said except I would raise the standard for it being OK from 'inconvenienced' to actual harm (vandalism, theft, assault, etc.)
    So, that rules out the Boston Tea Party as a matter of civil disobedience, for after all, the tea-partiers could have been prosecuted for committing a felony.

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Your answer is to write a letter of protest? *Snickers* I cannot take you serious about this so will ignore your other dumb ass thought that they should be rounded up and bussed to the nearest detention center..

    Why do you hate civil rights?
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    So you think it's okay for a bunch of filthy bastards to defile private property etc. and the most of them are too damn stupid to even know why they are there, because they are dumb-assed liberals who play follow the leader and in this case it's Obama who started the BS class wars in hope of just such an event.
    These protesters are breaking a number if laws and that has nothing to do with my feelings about civil rights. I know more about than you will ever know and there is a way to protest with breaking the law.
    As for the buses it will take buses to haul these fools off.
    Did you know brainiac that 100 of these ignorant fools were interviewed and 34 % said that America was just as bad as Al Queda. In my book that's about enough damn it, these son of beatches don't realize than if they were the Commie society they crave they would all go to prison or a gulag if they lived they the initial attracts.
    Keep your hate speech to your party, mine doesn't buy in to the hate from the Left.

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Depends on what you mean. Can it be used? Absolutely. Should the individual suffer the appropriate legal penalty for doing it? Absolutely. I'm really sick and tired of people who trumpet civil disobedience and then don't want to be taken to task for it. Either man up and take your lumps or stop pretending.
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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They hate capitalism. They have the fullbore support of the Communist and Nazi Parties.

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They're trying to destroy our capitalist system.
    I am sure you can document this stupidity.
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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I've debated this in my mind many times. At the very least, it is not the most well thought out strategy. Making me late for whatever I'm doing does not make me want to be sympathetic to your cause.
    Some, in the past, have even been known to block the main entrance to an Air Force base to make a point about the Vietnam war.

    If those involved in the protests today are willing to risk being put in jail for their civil disobedience to non-violently stand up for their beliefs, I have the highest respect for them.
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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    I have always found it amusing that people think protesting needs to have rules around it, like permits. All you need are sheer numbers. Once there are enough people, the government is not going to do anything to stop it. A good example was the haulted cleanup at the Wall St. protests.

    Imagine if 10,000 people all sat down on the ground in rows, and linked hands and feet. What could the government do aside from trample them? They would not be easily moveable.

    What determines the validity of protest is simply its effectiveness, and civil disobedience is very effective, especially in larger numbers.

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Burning and looting buildings is NOT Civil Disobedience?? Keyword here is civil.

    I don't want to be a word Nazi here but if you want to focus on a word the civil in civil disobedience, it doesn't mean you are behaving in a civil fashion, it means you refuse to obey civil laws.

    Refusal to obey civil laws is an effort to induce change in governmental policy or legislation, characterized by the use of passive resistance or other nonviolent means.

    Point is, if you break the law you get arrested, yes even if you are non violent.

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They're trying to destroy our capitalist system.
    "Destroy" might be a little harsh, but I do believe the system needs serious changing. At least from what I have observed of these people, though I cannot speak for the inner motivation of each individual.

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