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Thread: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The issue I have with boycotts, is how do you justify outting people people out of work, if you manage to force that business to close it's doors? At the end of the day, what's been accomplished? Working class folks are out of a job and the business operator cut his losses, took the money and ran.
    But on the flip side, how do people express their displeasure in a meaningful and significant manner? Something that will cause the leaders of the company to take notice and actually possibly make a change in how they do things?

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They hate capitalism. They have the fullbore support of the Communist and Nazi Parties.

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    But on the flip side, how do people express their displeasure in a meaningful and significant manner? Something that will cause the leaders of the company to take notice and actually possibly make a change in how they do things?
    Make sure that it worth putting a person in the unemployment line, I reckon.

    IOW, make sure that the boycott isn't motivated by some asinine political agenda, which would rule out just about every boycott I've ever heard of.
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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The issue I have with boycotts, is how do you justify outting people people out of work, if you manage to force that business to close it's doors? At the end of the day, what's been accomplished? Working class folks are out of a job and the business operator cut his losses, took the money and ran.
    The way I see it, its either boycott the business or ask the thugerment to step in with its cadre of guns to force the business to do what you want. I prefer the power of the purse over the thugerment any day.
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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The issue I have with boycotts, is how do you justify outting people people out of work, if you manage to force that business to close it's doors? At the end of the day, what's been accomplished? Working class folks are out of a job and the business operator cut his losses, took the money and ran.
    Never even considered that point, you are right provided the boycott works and it seems to me that most of them fail. It's true enough that hurting people who don't necessarily agree with the actions of the company doesn't solve much.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    It is never okay to break the law.

    If you have to bitch about something fine write a letter protest within the law.

    I'm sure this is all about the hundreds who breaking numerous laws and turning a private park into a cesspool, smoking pot, walking around nude, defecating on a police car, having sex in the open, and generally being a nuisance.

    They need to be rounded up and bussed to the nearest detention center.

    Most of them so far don't have a clue what they wand and to top that off they are protesting the wrong group.

    Obama has done more to add to the problems he claims to have inherited, by wasting billions on failed programs.

    They also need to protest the Congress for passing "The Community Reinvestment Act" but it was passed in 1977 and all this Congress is guilty of is repealing it early on, because it resulted the housing bubble popping big time.

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Highway View Post
    The way I see it, its either boycott the business or ask the thugerment to step in with its cadre of guns to force the business to do what you want. I prefer the power of the purse over the thugerment any day.
    Again, there ought to be a rational, non-dumbass political agenda reason to try and force a particular business to close it's doors.

    Boycotting a business, just because you don't like them, isn't really a good reason to put people out of work, or cause them to lose money.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They hate capitalism. They have the fullbore support of the Communist and Nazi Parties.

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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Again, there ought to be a rational, non-dumbass political agenda reason to try and force a particular business to close it's doors.

    Boycotting a business, just because you don't like them, isn't really a good reason to put people out of work, or cause them to lose money.
    In my opinion trying to shut down a business will 9 out 10 times have a political motive behind it, I want to say most people just want the business to change its behavior/polices. For example some people hate it when they have to give out name and address in order to return a product. Most of the time they will bitch, write a letter to the company and sometimes the BBB and probably wont shop there. Others will carry a chip on their shoulder and try to do something that really hurts the business. I think the people who write letters and use word of mouth are in the majority as opposed to those who carry a chip on the shoulder.
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    Re: Is Civil Disobedience a valid method of protest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    It is never okay to break the law.

    If you have to bitch about something fine write a letter protest within the law.

    I'm sure this is all about the hundreds who breaking numerous laws and turning a private park into a cesspool, smoking pot, walking around nude, defecating on a police car, having sex in the open, and generally being a nuisance.

    They need to be rounded up and bussed to the nearest detention center.

    Most of them so far don't have a clue what they wand and to top that off they are protesting the wrong group.

    Obama has done more to add to the problems he claims to have inherited, by wasting billions on failed programs.

    They also need to protest the Congress for passing "The Community Reinvestment Act" but it was passed in 1977 and all this Congress is guilty of is repealing it early on, because it resulted the housing bubble popping big time.

    Your answer is to write a letter of protest? *Snickers* I cannot take you serious about this so will ignore your other dumb ass thought that they should be rounded up and bussed to the nearest detention center..

    Why do you hate civil rights?
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