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  • No, not at all

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  • May be a little

    13 10.83%
  • Yes, it is

    55 45.83%
  • Oh, very arrogant

    26 21.67%
  • I can't decide

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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    The thing is that the US is a good country, but American exceptionalism is not something I've ever understood. The Romans, the British Empire, the German Third Reich, the Chinese, many empires and great nations rose and fell in part due to their arrogance
    PSK, America WAS the last great hope for humanity. We WERE the ones who were supposed to finally get it right. We've screwed it up beyond all repair in the last century and a half, getting systemically worse since the War of Northern Aggression, to the point where we're really no better than Canada or Belgium or France at this point. In fact, I'm not entirely sure that my great-grandfather would have left Germany to come to THIS version of "America" if it had been in place a century ago when he came here.

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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Duh... Winning!

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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    That is my theory on all of this. There will come a day when we wont be known as The Great America, land of the free, etc etc. We will still be a country, we just wont be a great country. We will be like England or France...
    True, at which point there will no longer be any hope for Humanity as a species.

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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    As a country we lack moderation and are extremely self-absorbed. Every sub-culture that exists in every bracket of our socio-economic structure hysterically puts their own needs and interests on a pedestal far higher than anyone else's, which is called having a cultural imperative -- the idea that the 'tribe' you belong to, through the work it does for the country, or by the merit of its character, is so deserving of rewards and benefits that all policy needs to be ordered around its material advancement. This contributes to a lot of our political dysfunction, and moral delusion.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I voted other. I could care less if America is arrogant. In America's short history America has accomplished a lot and done so much for the world.
    Even if so, it is irrelevant. The only way to continue being great is to maintain a great spirit, which includes humility, mindfulness of our faults and weaknesses, as well as a willingness to apply and improve upon our strengths for the greater good.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 10-18-11 at 01:39 PM.
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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    MG, sounds like you'd be happier in Europe or Canada. I'd be willing to donate towards your ticket, so long as you're willing to leave your US Citizenship behind.

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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    MG, sounds like you'd be happier in Europe or Canada. I'd be willing to donate towards your ticket, so long as you're willing to leave your US Citizenship behind.
    lolololol.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    As a country we lack moderation and are extremely self-absorbed. Every sub-culture that exists in every bracket of our socio-economic structure hysterically puts their own needs and interests on a pedestal far higher than anyone else's, which is called having a cultural imperative -- the idea that the 'tribe' you belong to, through the work it does for the country, or by the merit of its character, is so deserving of rewards and benefits that all policy needs to be ordered around its material advancement. This contributes to a lot of our political dysfunction, and moral delusion.



    Even if so, it is irrelevant. The only way to continue being great is to maintain a great spirit, which includes humility, mindfulness of our faults and weaknesses, as well as a willingness to apply and improve upon our strengths for the greater good.
    Self actualization of the individual necessarily benefits "the greater good."

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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    MG, sounds like you'd be happier in Europe or Canada. I'd be willing to donate towards your ticket, so long as you're willing to leave your US Citizenship behind.
    I've occasionally considered moving to a different country, one with a heightened sense of personal responsibility toward the collective good, but you shouldn't abandon your community of birth anymore than you should abandon your family, no matter how dysfunctional it is. It is the network of human associations that history gave to me, so I will take it for its good and bad.

    Self actualization of the individual necessarily benefits "the greater good."
    Self-actualization is good, I'm not arguing people shouldn't reach their full potential, but I doubt whether most individuals have the self-knowledge or awareness of their indebtedness to other human beings to have a realistic idea of their what their full potential is. Part of realizing your potential is working your way into a position where you can repay people for the good that they did you, directly or indirectly. The more self-absorbed you are, the more attracted to your own thoughts and feelings and their importance to you, the less likely you are to develop a good perception of what you have received from others, and what you need to repay.

    Working your way into a position where you can do "what" you want to/for "who" you want "when and where" you want is only meaningful if you are doing the right things to/for the right people at the right places and times.

    Our culture doesn't teach people about such righteousness. It teaches them to embrace and pursue their innermost desires, without considering how vile or selfish these might be.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 10-18-11 at 02:06 PM.
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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    I've occasionally considered moving to a different country, one with a heightened sense of personal responsibility toward the collective good, but you shouldn't abandon your community of birth anymore than you should abandon your family, no matter how dysfunctional it is. It is the network of human associations that history gave to me, so I will take it for its good and bad.
    I have no problem abandoning any individual, group, or association that fails to live up to my standards.

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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I have no problem abandoning any individual, group, or association that fails to live up to my standards.
    Ultimately everything you are, and have, you owe to whatever associations you had, and made use of. It isn't a connection you can abandon, without taking a serious blow to your credibility.

    It would also imply that I am "much better" than the people of the United States, which isn't a message I want to send. I might put a little more effort in the mindfulness I was talking about, but I'm not in my behavior a vast improvement over the other inhabitants of my country. Though it is always a goal to be better.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 10-18-11 at 02:29 PM.
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