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  • No, not at all

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  • May be a little

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  • Yes, it is

    55 45.83%
  • Oh, very arrogant

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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    the bases in Europe have no impact on how Europe conduct their affairs.... The only reason why the states are still in europe is easy access to the middle east and Russia and where the US can not have bases they help fund British bases in places like Cyprus so they can obtain intelligence.
    That may be so, just a platform for the US now after the Soviet Union collapsed, but may be more complex than that. The bases help us maintain partnerships, and influence. And who knows what will happen in Europe. The present economic situation could create a completely new conflict in europe which has never been short of them. Best that we stay there in my opinion with boots on the ground...
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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    It's very cool to hear you're a gracious visitor, Whyte. When I go abroad I'm thrilled to be able to see other countries and meet the people who live there. I treat the people I meet with kindness and respect. When people overseas realize that I am not "just another ugly American" they in turn treat me very well. My experiences have been wonderful.
    I have travelled to a number of countries (some briefly, some more extensively - 26 at the last count) and met Americans both abroad and at home, and I can honestly say I have never encountered 'the ugly American'. Most Americans I met in the USA were very gracious and welcoming, and most were very polite. I have been jostled more on the King's Road in London, than ever I was in Boston or San Francisco.

    I will say this though, some older American men tend to be a bit crabby and suspicious of younger foreigners, whereas older American women are, in my experience, universally delightful. They mother you and feed you, and are charmed by even the most incidental courtesies. I have made good friends with at least three American ladies who are older than my gran. They write to me , and phone me, and send me birthday cards. They are lovely. So the ugly American does not exist for me.
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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    I have travelled to a number of countries (some briefly, some more extensively - 26 at the last count) and met Americans both abroad and at home, and I can honestly say I have never encountered 'the ugly American'. Most Americans I met in the USA were very gracious and welcoming, and most were very polite. I have been jostled more on the King's Road in London, than ever I was in Boston or San Francisco.

    I will say this though, some older American men tend to be a bit crabby and suspicious of younger foreigners, whereas older American women are, in my experience, universally delightful. They mother you and feed you, and are charmed by even the most incidental courtesies. I have made good friends with at least three American ladies who are older than my gran. They write to me , and phone me, and send me birthday cards. They are lovely. So the ugly American does not exist for me.
    Good for you, Leo. It sounds to me like you're a friendly guy and that's probably why you get along with folks. I'm glad that you haven't met an Ugly Americans. The term is over dramaticised so there aren't as many out there as the original book suggested, but they do exist. Your friendly nature is less likely to bring anyone's bad side out.

    To say that Americans are generally arrogant, does NOT mean we're always walking around snarling and spitting and griping about other countries. We simply don't do that. In fact, the vast majority of Americans are very friendly and genuinely good people. It may seem that an arrogant person cannot be a "nice" person, but that is false. Americans can meet foreigners here and go abroad and meet people in foreign countries and be friendly to both parties, but still be arrogant. There's many degrees of arrogance.

    My neighbor downstairs is an older guy who's very friendly and talkative. He gets along well with the Mexican families in the apartment complex. But when talking with me he reveals a denigrating and belittling view of Mexicans. This is arrogance. But when personally interacting with Mexicans, he's kind and thoughtful. So there's a certain duality happening there. My neighbor believes in treating in all people with respect, and he backs it up with his actions, so he is sincere about it. But he also maintains personal thoughts about folks from other countries that are insulting to those people.

    So if someone from another country says that Americans are a mean, rotten people, I'm gonna have something nasty to say about that. Because that's a lie. If someone says Americans are a pretty good lot and clever and kind, but just a bit too big for their trousers, well yeah, I'd have to admit to that one.
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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Good for you, Leo. It sounds to me like you're a friendly guy and that's probably why you get along with folks. I'm glad that you haven't met an Ugly Americans. The term is over dramaticised so there aren't as many out there as the original book suggested, but they do exist. Your friendly nature is less likely to bring anyone's bad side out.

    To say that Americans are generally arrogant, does NOT mean we're always walking around snarling and spitting and griping about other countries. We simply don't do that. In fact, the vast majority of Americans are very friendly and genuinely good people. It may seem that an arrogant person cannot be a "nice" person, but that is false. Americans can meet foreigners here and go abroad and meet people in foreign countries and be friendly to both parties, but still be arrogant. There's many degrees of arrogance.

    My neighbor downstairs is an older guy who's very friendly and talkative. He gets along well with the Mexican families in the apartment complex. But when talking with me he reveals a denigrating and belittling view of Mexicans. This is arrogance. But when personally interacting with Mexicans, he's kind and thoughtful. So there's a certain duality happening there. My neighbor believes in treating in all people with respect, and he backs it up with his actions, so he is sincere about it. But he also maintains personal thoughts about folks from other countries that are insulting to those people.

    So if someone from another country says that Americans are a mean, rotten people, I'm gonna have something nasty to say about that. Because that's a lie. If someone says Americans are a pretty good lot and clever and kind, but just a bit too big for their trousers, well yeah, I'd have to admit to that one.
    You make some good and valid points. I would not say that all Americans are wonderful people, any more than I would say that all Brits, or all Aussies, are wonderful people. Of course there is good and bad everywhere, but I think Americans have an undeserved reputation for being loud, and uncultured, and arrogant, on the personal level.

    If you read some of my posts, you will find that I am critical of some American foreign policies, just as I am critical of my own country's foreign policies. So I am not being sycophantic; I just think that Americans sometimes come in for unwarranted criticism. Like in my own country (the UK) it is common sport to make fun of Americans, but can you think of a weirder society than us Brits? So like - Mr Pot meet Mr Kettle.

    The Americans I met were hard working, and inventive, and kind and generous, and basically, if they thought their society was better than all others - so what? Like that was a bit unrealistic, but I understand that American society is a bit inward looking, and that most Americans are given to understand that anything American is better than everything from anywhere else. We Brits would feel the same way if we grew up in a similar society, and I don't feel in any way diminished if an American says "My country is the best country in the world". Very few do say it, but I get the impression that most think so. That's cool with me, as I know that there is no such animal as the best country in the world. Each has its strengths and weaknesses. And if it makes Americans feel good to think that - where's the harm?

    I greatly enjoyed the time I spent travelling around your beautiful country, and I am happy to report that I did not meet the Ugly American. So while some may argue, and not always without reason, that the USA is arrogant; I would refute the generalisation that Americans, on an individual basis, are arrogant. Or at least, no more than any other nationality.
    I hate the idea of causes, and if I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country. E.M. Forster

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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    You make some good and valid points. I would not say that all Americans are wonderful people, any more than I would say that all Brits, or all Aussies, are wonderful people. Of course there is good and bad everywhere, but I think Americans have an undeserved reputation for being loud, and uncultured, and arrogant, on the personal level.

    If you read some of my posts, you will find that I am critical of some American foreign policies, just as I am critical of my own country's foreign policies. So I am not being sycophantic; I just think that Americans sometimes come in for unwarranted criticism. Like in my own country (the UK) it is common sport to make fun of Americans, but can you think of a weirder society than us Brits? So like - Mr Pot meet Mr Kettle.

    The Americans I met were hard working, and inventive, and kind and generous, and basically, if they thought their society was better than all others - so what? Like that was a bit unrealistic, but I understand that American society is a bit inward looking, and that most Americans are given to understand that anything American is better than everything from anywhere else. We Brits would feel the same way if we grew up in a similar society, and I don't feel in any way diminished if an American says "My country is the best country in the world". Very few do say it, but I get the impression that most think so. That's cool with me, as I know that there is no such animal as the best country in the world. Each has its strengths and weaknesses. And if it makes Americans feel good to think that - where's the harm?

    I greatly enjoyed the time I spent travelling around your beautiful country, and I am happy to report that I did not meet the Ugly American. So while some may argue, and not always without reason, that the USA is arrogant; I would refute the generalisation that Americans, on an individual basis, are arrogant. Or at least, no more than any other nationality.
    Thanks for the kind words.

    There's nothing wrong with a bit of good-natured ribbing amongst cousins is there?

    I would agree that there's good folks and bad folks in any country you can name. From my experiences abroad, I would still say there's mostly good. I think you can find a certain degree of arrogance in the people of any country as well. As long as people are good-natured about it, what's the harm, as you say.

    Well, I am glad you enjoyed your stay. I hope you can come again.
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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome! View Post
    Actually yes, I don't think we can leave the euro's to manage their own affairs.
    Now, that is arrogant!

    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome! View Post
    I don't think the US feels that we own this world and everyone. We are just protecting our interests, just like any country would especially after the two great conflicts: WW1 and WW2. Rise of Communism etc.
    Yeah, if you want to rule the world, sure. I want to rule myself you know...
    I like the answer of that young American (please, see 2:57 onwards).

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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Now, that is arrogant!



    Yeah, if you want to rule the world, sure. I want to rule myself you know...
    I like the answer of that young American (please, see 2:57 onwards).
    No, it's just realistic validated by Europe not being able to control itself or defend itself. Now, with the US presence Europe is beginning to make the necessary changes and progress but it remains to be seen.
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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome! View Post
    No, it's just realistic validated by Europe not being able to control itself or defend itself. Now, with the US presence Europe is beginning to make the necessary changes and progress but it remains to be seen.
    You can't be real....

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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome! View Post
    No, it's just realistic validated by Europe not being able to control itself or defend itself.
    Europe can't control itself or defend itself? please.

    Anyway, the moment that EU will be in such a situation as you believe will be when the economy of EU's lokomotive will be destroyed. Guess, who's lokomotive of EU and never let europeans to go down?
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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome! View Post
    No, it's just realistic validated by Europe not being able to control itself or defend itself. Now, with the US presence Europe is beginning to make the necessary changes and progress but it remains to be seen.
    what presence are you talking about?

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