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  • May be a little

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  • Yes, it is

    55 45.83%
  • Oh, very arrogant

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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    at least your honest I guess
    Yep, and that's the thing which gets me in the most trouble, because it's not really considered socially acceptable to be brutally honest anymore.

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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    How do we judge arrogance in regards to a nation? We to by numbers, so we use the majority. So America can't be arrogant because the majority isn't arrogant, so case closed?
    Last edited by Wake; 10-19-11 at 12:02 AM.

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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Of course we're arrogant - you have to be arrogant to be the best.
    "ar·ro·gance noun \ˈer-ə-gən(t)s, ˈa-rə-\

    Definition of ARROGANCE

    : an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions
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    Examples of ARROGANCE

    Her arrogance has earned her a lot of enemies.
    We were shocked by the arrogance of his comments.
    He was like a movie star at his high school reunion, muting his arrogance and trying to be a regular guy for old times' sake. He seemed to genuinely appreciate the honor. —Carlo Rotella, New York Times Sports Magazine, June 2008
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    Origin of ARROGANCE
    (see arrogant)

    First Known Use: 14th century
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    Synonyms: assumption, bumptiousness, consequence, haughtiness, hauteur, high horse, huffiness, imperiousness, loftiness, lordliness, masterfulness, peremptoriness, pomposity, pompousness, presumptuousness, pretense (or pretence), pretension, pretentiousness, self-consequence, self-importance, superciliousness, superiority, toploftiness

    Antonyms: humility, modesty, unassumingness, unpretentiousness
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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    You are one of the misinformed.
    Oh yes i forgot the commies are coming for the white house!

    People in a number of Countries are proud of their Nations there are just fewer of them and even more people envy our Nation for our form of Government and life style and living standard.
    Uhhhh so they hate us because we have a "better gov" than them?


    If you Socialists/Marxists/Communists don't like it tough stuff we will never change into a form of Government that always fails.
    Of course....

    It is proof that some people have a serious lack of mental acuity when they proudly state they are in favor of systems that can never be successful.

    They want others to produce so they can be lazy good for nothings who live off the hard work of good people.
    Yea im done here no point to go on when one has a mindset of this...


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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome! View Post
    Oh Please.. Without US involvement, who would have been dropping A-bombs on all of us? That is right, Mr. Hitler himself. Who supplied Stalin? Without the US, just like in WW1, they would not have defeated Germany.
    It is merely a myth that Hitler was close to having the Atomic bomb. It would ahve been at least another decade before the Germans even had a prototype. Delivery systems, yes, but no A-bomb.
    Although US aid was important, it was not the most vital, it was more of a token gesture. The Soviet industrial power and sheer manpower won the war
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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    It is merely a myth that Hitler was close to having the Atomic bomb. It would ahve been at least another decade before the Germans even had a prototype. Delivery systems, yes, but no A-bomb.
    Although US aid was important, it was not the most vital, it was more of a token gesture. The Soviet industrial power and sheer manpower won the war
    This is very true. Hitler's atomic bomb program stalled on it's own:
    German nuclear energy project - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    In Germany, on the other hand, a great many young scientists and technicians who would have been of great use to such a project were conscripted into the German armed forces, while others had fled the country before the war due to antisemitism and political persecution.

    Germany fell short of what was required to make an atomic bomb.
    While I wouldn't say Russia won the war against Germany by herself, Russia's efforts were vital to the relatively quick win, and it's efforts are vastly under reported. Russia's massive numbers of troops and massive numbers of it's spectacular T-34 (best overall tank of ww2) were critical in the battle of Kursk (largest tank battle ever). So I think it's important to give a tip of the hat to Russia.

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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    wow I love this chicken and the egg argument you have with Americans about WW2 who obviously have a limited understanding of the conflict.
    1.If the UK doesnt win the battle of Britain hitler launches operation sea lion and invades the UK so D-Day never happens
    2. If the UK doesnt win in north africa there is no southern Italian campaign cutting off anyone entrance for America into Europe and leaving the allies with no launching point
    3. If the Russians dont stop the Germans at the gates of Moscow Germans run all over Europe and then can help their friend Japan turn on the US attacking from both sides and using the superior U-Boats to cut of americas trade.
    4. America actually gave the russians not that much during WW2
    5. As for rest of the allies they should be kissing americas hand forever because you supplied us weapons while we were fighting evil at a very high intrest rate?

    Every country involved in WW2 knows it was a joint effort and without eachother we would not have won, every country except the US that is.
    O.k. the truth comes out with #5. The US has no right to receive that much credit then, is that your argument? I mean I realize the cumbersome position I'm taking touting America's involvement as the French resistance would have taken care of Germany themselves prior to D-Day And England would have taken North Africa without US supplies and wouldn't have starved or faced that much hardship without the liberty ships. It wasn't enough for Europe to throw the entire world into their conflict in WW1, so they have to create WW2 and their sympathizers like you lecture us about being arrogant because we take pride in our involvement. I would rather take Churchill's word for it, who recognized immediately the war won when the US entered, than this B.S. position that seems to marginalize our efforts dealing with Europe's failures. Russia was lucky for our help with supplies and to fight Japan who was a threat to their back door who handed their asses to them in the past, but I understand now. England, France and Russia were doing a superb job without America and we were arrogant for even stepping foot on Europe's soil.
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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome! View Post
    O.k. the truth comes out with #5. The US has no right to receive that much credit then, is that your argument? I mean I realize the cumbersome position I'm taking touting America's involvement as the French resistance would have taken care of Germany themselves prior to D-Day And England would have taken North Africa without US supplies and wouldn't have starved or faced that much hardship without the liberty ships. It wasn't enough for Europe to throw the entire world into their conflict in WW1, so they have to create WW2 and their sympathizers like you lecture us about being arrogant because we take pride in our involvement. I would rather take Churchill's word for it, who recognized immediately the war won when the US entered, than this B.S. position that seems to marginalize our efforts dealing with Europe's failures. Russia was lucky for our help with supplies and to fight Japan who was a threat to their back door who handed their asses to them in the past, but I understand now. England, France and Russia were doing a superb job without America and we were arrogant for even stepping foot on Europe's soil.
    I think Higgins made his intent clear with the last line, just after #5, which was:
    Every country involved in WW2 knows it was a joint effort and without eachother we would not have won, every country except the US that is.
    He clearly states "it was a joint effort." So he wasn't marginalizing the US, he was pointing out we shouldn't marginalize the "other Allies" in the effort.

    Yeah, we could've won it without help but it would've been 1948, with 1 Million Americans dead instead of 450K, by the time we got the job done. We would've dropped The Bomb in a bunch more places too. Maybe that makes me an Arrogant American, and if so, then so be it. But I'm not so arrogant that I can't give my teammates an "attaboy!" and a pat on the back. I'm very thankful to our allies for their fabulous contributions. I think we can be cocky about our country and still give "props" to others.
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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    I feel my point is important yet it is being overlooked.

    How are we to judge a nation as arrogant? If we try to measure, should we not use numbers?

    If so then I argue that the majority of Americans are not arrogant. There are more poor than rich. There are also people like farmers, etc who are not arrogant. I will go further in saying that not all rich folk are arrogant; some can be quite modest/humble.

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    Re: Is America arrogant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I feel my point is important yet it is being overlooked.

    How are we to judge a nation as arrogant? If we try to measure, should we not use numbers?

    If so then I argue that the majority of Americans are not arrogant. There are more poor than rich. There are also people like farmers, etc who are not arrogant. I will go further in saying that not all rich folk are arrogant; some can be quite modest/humble.
    Arrogance is a behavior.

    Our government could adopt policies that are arrogant in nature - and individuals can be arrogant. But individuals being arrogant doens't make *all* of the US arrogant.

    And on a nationwide scale I don't think it's possible to judge one way or the other regarding "the people being arrogant"
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