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    what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    assume average cost of living.

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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Depends on the area someone lives in and the number of people in the family, but I think 50-100k is fine, maybe higher for more expensive areas. For people who own their own business and count business revenues on their own personal income taxes, certainly that number can go up.
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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    I would define it as having a reasonable amount of disposable income in addition to survival expenses being covered, as well as lacking political power. "Upper class" is the above + political power. Lower class is both lacking in disposable income and political power.

    If you judge "middle class" based on income level alone, it's not accurate. A person can make 75k but not have disposable income because of the mortgage cost of their house, for example.

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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Depends on the area someone lives in and the number of people in the family, but I think 50-100k is fine, maybe higher for more expensive areas. For people who own their own business and count business revenues on their own personal income taxes, certainly that number can go up.
    I think this kind of demonstrates why the whole idea of basing "middle class" on income is ill-conceived. I make less than 30k a year right now, but I have a nice car (paid off in another 8 months, woot!), I can afford rent, I'm saving for a house, I have a nice cell phone/calling plan, high speed internet, spending money, health insurance, etc....and I receive no government subsistence aid for housing, health care, food, general expenses, etc. Based on the standard view of "middle class" I would fit, but based on income many people would discount me.
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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Around where I live would say 25,000-50,000 a year depending if you are single or have a family.
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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I think this kind of demonstrates why the whole idea of basing "middle class" on income is ill-conceived. I make less than 30k a year right now, but I have a nice car (paid off in another 8 months, woot!), I can afford rent, I'm saving for a house, I have a nice cell phone/calling plan, high speed internet, spending money, health insurance, etc....and I receive no government subsistence aid for housing, health care, food, general expenses, etc. Based on the standard view of "middle class" I would fit, but based on income many people would discount me.
    i forgot to make this public! can a mod change it?

    don't you share expenses with your bf?

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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Depends on the area someone lives in and the number of people in the family, but I think 50-100k is fine, maybe higher for more expensive areas. For people who own their own business and count business revenues on their own personal income taxes, certainly that number can go up.
    yeah...think average col.

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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    I would define it as having a reasonable amount of disposable income in addition to survival expenses being covered, as well as lacking political power. "Upper class" is the above + political power. Lower class is both lacking in disposable income and political power.

    If you judge "middle class" based on income level alone, it's not accurate. A person can make 75k but not have disposable income because of the mortgage cost of their house, for example.
    not really......75k is middle class income for a family of four (IMO), how a person spends that 75k is another thing.

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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i forgot to make this public! can a mod change it?

    don't you share expenses with your bf?
    I do, which gives me more capacity to save and spend than I'd have without his income, but I can technically survive on my own in an apartment that's less than $600/month, which is easily done down here. His income would put us in the 40k-100k category, but we both came into the relationship self-sustaining and have worked to make sure we stay that way (just in case).
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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I think this kind of demonstrates why the whole idea of basing "middle class" on income is ill-conceived. I make less than 30k a year right now, but I have a nice car (paid off in another 8 months, woot!), I can afford rent, I'm saving for a house, I have a nice cell phone/calling plan, high speed internet, spending money, health insurance, etc....and I receive no government subsistence aid for housing, health care, food, general expenses, etc. Based on the standard view of "middle class" I would fit, but based on income many people would discount me.
    If you are not married and have no kids, the federal government would consider you middle class. However, if you had kids, you would be considered working poor. I remember years ago when I was single and earning 32k a year I almost had as much disposable income as I do today, married, with kids, and earning 100k a year. Living is pretty cheap until you have a family.
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