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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Really? Being middle class means you can take two vacations a year? And two cars? Why? What if you don't need cars or like vacations? Why place arbitrary qualifiers on what middle class is based on things people don't need or might not want?
    Even if you don't like these things, the financial ability is still there.

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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Really? Being middle class means you can take two vacations a year? And two cars? Why? What if you don't need cars or like vacations? Why place arbitrary qualifiers on what middle class is based on things people don't need or might not want?
    it's what you can afford to do, not what you actually do. middle class is not being terrified your washer will quit, or your engine will blow.

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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Based on my income and monthly obligations, rent in this area, food, and the cost of utilities/internet I would be able to save about $300 a month and have about $400 to spend on whatever, give or take. I don't think that's incredibly "frugal" living for one person, to be honest.

    Of course, I spent much of my childhood in abject poverty with my mother, so I never really had a chance to jump on the material wealth, keeping up with the joneses bandwagon.
    same here......we were very poor and my mother was much like yours. i don't care about material goods either, hence the living on a boat!

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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it's what you can afford to do, not what you actually do. middle class is not being terrified your washer will quit, or your engine will blow.
    This is probably the best definition of middle class I have seen so far in this thread.
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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it's what you can afford to do, not what you actually do. middle class is not being terrified your washer will quit, or your engine will blow.
    Excellent point. Yesterday, I took my car in because I was losing coolant somewhere, they said the water pump was leaking and ought to be replaced. Since they were going to have that off anyhow and I was getting close to time to replace my timing chain, they might as well do that, plus a few other little things. Ended up costing me about $800. Then we went out and bought a whole new phone system for the house for about $150, then went out for a nice $80 dinner. Paid everything cash (well, ATM card) without breaking a sweat. I'm not only not terrified of anything like that, I'm not even remotely concerned.
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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Excellent point. Yesterday, I took my car in because I was losing coolant somewhere, they said the water pump was leaking and ought to be replaced. Since they were going to have that off anyhow and I was getting close to time to replace my timing chain, they might as well do that, plus a few other little things. Ended up costing me about $800. Then we went out and bought a whole new phone system for the house for about $150, then went out for a nice $80 dinner. Paid everything cash (well, ATM card) without breaking a sweat. I'm not only not terrified of anything like that, I'm not even remotely concerned.
    then you are blessed. i've been in the situation of constantly worrying, and it sucks.

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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    then you are blessed. i've been in the situation of constantly worrying, and it sucks.
    I have been in both situations. I prefer having money to spend.

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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    then you are blessed. i've been in the situation of constantly worrying, and it sucks.
    I'm not blessed, I work my ass off to be in a situation where I can do that. I've earned it.
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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it's what you can afford to do, not what you actually do. middle class is not being terrified your washer will quit, or your engine will blow.
    Right, middle class is the ability to live on what you make while saving/spending modestly. I still don't see why we have to define that with arbitrary qualifiers.
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    Re: what do YOU consider "middle class"?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I think this kind of demonstrates why the whole idea of basing "middle class" on income is ill-conceived. I make less than 30k a year right now, but I have a nice car (paid off in another 8 months, woot!), I can afford rent, I'm saving for a house, I have a nice cell phone/calling plan, high speed internet, spending money, health insurance, etc....and I receive no government subsistence aid for housing, health care, food, general expenses, etc. Based on the standard view of "middle class" I would fit, but based on income many people would discount me.

    Like someone else has said...it all depends on where you live...you could not do that in many states...in some not even close

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