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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    Sure Wake, let's go tit for tat. You can find assholes any where if you look hard enough.


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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    guns are more present at Right-wing rallies than Left-wing rallies.
    Are you trying to give my argument ammo? I agree that armed civillians are typically safer civillians.

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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Are you trying to give my argument ammo? I agree that armed civillians are typically safer civillians.
    no, just pointing out that Right-wing rallies tend to have more armed protestors. Armed in order to intimidate.

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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I don't want you to use anything. I'm just letting you know that your claims are unsubstantiated. I think you know what the word "usually" means so unless you have statistics to legitimize your use of the word all you have is an unsubstantiated hypothesis.
    He may just be falling victim to a phenomeno. Resulting from the way our media works.

    Blood/fear/misery SELLS. We hear about EVERY bad thing that happens, and it causes us to feel like FAR more bad things ARE happening than actually are.

    A little kid got hit by a car in San Diego, somebody got murdered, there was a terrible accident.

    Doesn't make mention of the millions of kids that didn't get killed today, the millions of people that didn't get murdered today, the millions of drivers who arrived home safely today.

    Our pattern recognizing minds see the horrors we are shown by media, that shows horrors because they sell, and makes the determination that the world is a MUCH more dangerous place than it actually is.

    This cognitive tendency is exploited by those with agendas to make it APPEAR that their opponents are scary and or dangerous and or silly.

    Propaganda 101.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    He may just be falling victim to a phenomeno. Resulting from the way our media works.

    Blood/fear/misery SELLS. We hear about EVERY bad thing that happens, and it causes us to feel like FAR more bad things ARE happening than actually are.

    A little kid got hit by a car in San Diego, somebody got murdered, there was a terrible accident.

    Doesn't make mention of the millions of kids that didn't get killed today, the millions of people that didn't get murdered today, the millions of drivers who arrived home safely today.

    Our pattern recognizing minds see the horrors we are shown by media, that shows horrors because they sell, and makes the determination that the world is a MUCH more dangerous place than it actually is.

    This cognitive tendency is exploited by those with agendas to make it APPEAR that their opponents are scary and or dangerous and or silly.

    Propaganda 101.
    It is propaganda to video-tape live action violence from a certain group from a certain party?

    I guess showing the riots from G20 was just propaganda---nothing to see?

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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    It is propaganda to video-tape live action violence from a certain group from a certain party?
    claiming that 5 videos represent thousands of seperate rallies, is 100% propaganda.

    and dishonesty.

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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    The Tea Partiers were never violent yet liberal rallies are usually violent.
    Come again???

    Violence at Tea Party rally: bare-knuckle politics in the streets

    "A Tea Party protest against immigration reform in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., Saturday descended into fisticuffs, showing the tensions between America’s political extremes."


    Milwaukee “tea party” rally turns violent


    "Renee Crawford of the “Crawford’s Take” blog has a good first-hand account of the violence at yesterday’s “tea party” rally on Milwaukee’s lakefront:

    I hear a commotion. I looked up and saw an angry mob of angry white men chasing an older white man with a backpack. He was yelling “I have a right to free speech too.” The crowd was yelling, “You should die. You’re not an American., etc…” They started grabbing at him as he kept trying to leave the event. The crowd was growing (eventually to about 30 people) and the man clearly scared and angry and being grabbed, pushed and surrounded to impede his attempts to escape,

    The man traveled about 300 yards attempting to escape the growing crowd. The crowd was riled up and screaming en masse, continuing to chase the man down, stop his movement, push and pull on his and in general attack the guy.

    Then Joe the Plumber joined the tussle. I kid you not. I have no idea his role in it, just that he was IN THE MIDDLE of the crowd. The sheriffs get there, I turn to look at Joe the Plumber and the next thing I know the guy being assaulted by the crowd is bloody on the ground under the knee of two sheriffs and being cuffed. His face was bloody, there was something about a broken camera and I became scared of the crowd who were cheering and congratulating the sheriffs for “doing a great job”.

    Tea Party sign threatens gun violence if health care passes.

    "The gathering was organized by Tea Party Profiteer organizations like FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity. ThinkProgress attended today’s rally and spotted a sign threatening violence if health care passes. The sign reads: “Warning: If Brown can’t stop it, a Browning can,” referring to Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA) and a Browning firearm."

    Tea Party Getting Violent? 10 House Dems Report Threats, Vandalism

    "Even the families of representatives aren't immune to the backlash, apparently. The Albemarle County Fire Marshal's Office and the FBI have concluded, in a joint statement, that a severed gas line outside of the house of Rep. Tom Perriello's (D-Va.) brother was "an act of vandalism." Perriello supported the overhaul measure and an activist involved in the "tea party" movement reportedly posted the brother's address on an internet forum - apparently thinking it was the congressman's - and urged angry opponents to pay him a visit."
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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    ...The Tea Partiers were never violent yet liberal rallies are usually violent.
    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    ...Violence at Tea Party rally: bare-knuckle politics in the streets

    "A Tea Party protest against immigration reform in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., Saturday descended into fisticuffs, showing the tensions between America’s political extremes."


    Milwaukee “tea party” rally turns violent


    "Renee Crawford of the “Crawford’s Take” blog has a good first-hand account of the violence at yesterday’s “tea party” rally on Milwaukee’s lakefront:

    I hear a commotion. I looked up and saw an angry mob of angry white men chasing an older white man with a backpack. He was yelling “I have a right to free speech too.” The crowd was yelling, “You should die. You’re not an American., etc…” They started grabbing at him as he kept trying to leave the event. The crowd was growing (eventually to about 30 people) and the man clearly scared and angry and being grabbed, pushed and surrounded to impede his attempts to escape,

    The man traveled about 300 yards attempting to escape the growing crowd. The crowd was riled up and screaming en masse, continuing to chase the man down, stop his movement, push and pull on his and in general attack the guy.

    Then Joe the Plumber joined the tussle. I kid you not. I have no idea his role in it, just that he was IN THE MIDDLE of the crowd. The sheriffs get there, I turn to look at Joe the Plumber and the next thing I know the guy being assaulted by the crowd is bloody on the ground under the knee of two sheriffs and being cuffed. His face was bloody, there was something about a broken camera and I became scared of the crowd who were cheering and congratulating the sheriffs for “doing a great job”.

    Tea Party sign threatens gun violence if health care passes.

    "The gathering was organized by Tea Party Profiteer organizations like FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity. ThinkProgress attended today’s rally and spotted a sign threatening violence if health care passes. The sign reads: “Warning: If Brown can’t stop it, a Browning can,” referring to Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA) and a Browning firearm."

    Tea Party Getting Violent? 10 House Dems Report Threats, Vandalism

    "Even the families of representatives aren't immune to the backlash, apparently. The Albemarle County Fire Marshal's Office and the FBI have concluded, in a joint statement, that a severed gas line outside of the house of Rep. Tom Perriello's (D-Va.) brother was "an act of vandalism." Perriello supported the overhaul measure and an activist involved in the "tea party" movement reportedly posted the brother's address on an internet forum - apparently thinking it was the congressman's - and urged angry opponents to pay him a visit."
    so not only do Tea-Party rallies sometimes turn violent, but there is also NO evidence that even a sizeable minority of Liberal rallies turn violent.

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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so not only do Tea-Party rallies sometimes turn violent, but there is also NO evidence that even a sizeable minority of Liberal rallies turn violent.
    Pardon? If there is no evidence that a "even a sizeable minority of Liberal rallies turn violent," then there is not "even a sizeable minority of conservative rallies turning violent".

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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Pardon? If there is no evidence that a "even a sizeable minority of Liberal rallies turn violent," then there is not "even a sizeable minority of conservative rallies turning violent".
    I'm sorry, did anyone here suggest that a sizeable minority of Conservative rallies get violent??????

    dude, what are you talking about??

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