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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    "Originally Posted by TurtleDude
    what nonsense

    That is the standard lame we see in your posts.

    Yeah, senior partners in wall street law firms, corporate executives and successful small business owners, pro athletes, etc are there

    NOT

    its a collection of losers, Che wannabees, bored trust fund mercedes marxists and sexual deviants"

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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Food prices have gone up pretty steadily since 2002: Commodity Food Price Index - Monthly Price - Commodity Prices - Price Charts, Data, and News - IndexMundi

    Look at gas prices. Now throw in the cost of cars and housing. Middle class spending power has decreased significantly.
    That isn't the whole story.
    Historically, food prices are pretty low.
    Americans have continually spent less on food, as a percentage of income since 1925.

    Gas prices have fallen right in the inflation adjusted norms.
    Inflation adjusted Gasoline Price Chart

    Cars have increased in longevity, reducing the cost over time.
    Who are the OWS protestors?-comerica-jpg

    A chart about historical auto affordability.

    That isn't even touching on the subject, about how income is not fully reported by those who claim that the middle class is shrinking.
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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    "Originally Posted by TurtleDude
    what nonsense

    That is the standard lame we see in your posts.

    Yeah, senior partners in wall street law firms, corporate executives and successful small business owners, pro athletes, etc are there

    NOT

    its a collection of losers, Che wannabees, bored trust fund mercedes marxists and sexual deviants"

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    You know, if that agent provocateur guy really was the only one who got in, then its on high rez video.

    And homey will be BUSTED!

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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    the middle class IS shrinking...it's not just a claim. how may graphs should i post? i have no income i don't report.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    a group of people who are upset about their financial situation and look to find someone or something else to blame for their failure or lack of success
    Youve worn that line out turtle...you really need some new material...that has zero impact except for a chuckle or two and maybe a guffaw

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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    the middle class IS shrinking...it's not just a claim. how may graphs should i post? i have no income i don't report.
    It is just a fallacious claim.
    That don't include other forms of compensation, government transfers, etc.
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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    I and a few others im sure on this forum lived through the 60s protests....and you could take the posts from here from the right wingers and match them perfectly to what was being said back then.....disorganized, hippies in communes using the war to have sex and use drugs...college dropouts...societies losers...etc etc etc.
    I was TOTALLY against their movement and what they stood for.....but all of you had better remember one thing

    Like them or not those protesters changed the country as we knew it...and those protesters all grown up today are the same babyboomers that have ruined this country out of greed...and are many of our politicians.....these protests today may be the next generation.....we will have to wait and see.

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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It is just a fallacious claim.
    That don't include other forms of compensation, government transfers, etc.
    read this:

    34 Signs That Point To A Rapidly Shrinking American Middle Class

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    PEople that want to separate the state and corporations. Thats who they are.


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    Re: Who are the OWS protestors?

    Yes I've seen all this before and to address each and every one would be a marathon, I don't wish to partake in.

    1. income is going to be lower now because we're still coming out of a recession.
    No matter what anyone says, we're still moving out of one.

    2. the retiree population is getting larger, when that happens incomes will show downward pressure, because retired incomes tend to be lower than working incomes.

    3. This covers a ton of stuff.
    The inequality myth: Is rising inequality in America exaggerated? | The Economist

    4. Most of these data charts do not include government transfers that aren't taxed like, EITC, Medicaid benefits, Food stamps, etc.

    5. Most of these data charts do not include untaxed forms of compensation like, employer paid insurance benefits, 401k contributions, etc.

    6. The cost for many consumer goods, both durable and non durable have been going down on aggregate like, automobiles, electronics, dishwashers, cloths washers, etc.

    Finally, there are so many differing factors at play, that simplistic statistics are only good for taking advantage of people, who don't know any better.
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