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    Re: The Duty of Corporations

    Trying to say a corporation has a duty to be more than a profit center is like saying a race car driver and pit crew have a duty to do more than win races. They're supposed to do what they can to win races within the rules that they're given.
    The problem is they benefit more than anyone else from social services.

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    Re: The Duty of Corporations

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    The problem is they benefit more than anyone else from social services.
    That's completely false. I am assuming you are using the argument that they used the streets, police services, fire, etc. that all taxes paid for. While they did use these resources, so do we, and taxes are paid by the corporations(mostly) as well as every employee and their shareholders, if anything taxes being equal in the equation the corporate interests already paid MORE for usage than any individual or group and the argument is especially true when you add in the individuals working for said interest.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: The Duty of Corporations

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    That's completely false. I am assuming you are using the argument that they used the streets, police services, fire, etc. that all taxes paid for. While they did use these resources, so do we, and taxes are paid by the corporations(mostly) as well as every employee and their shareholders, if anything taxes being equal in the equation the corporate interests already paid MORE for usage than any individual or group and the argument is especially true when you add in the individuals working for said interest.
    You left out the education we provide for their employees.

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    Re: The Duty of Corporations

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    You left out the education we provide for their employees.
    Not necessarily. Think about this, not all citizens go to or graduate college or tech schools. Many corporations train at the entry level for just such a case and these programs are done through private companies or in house at the corporations expense. As a matter of fact, in my state many of the millionaires only graduated high school or GED and worked their way up the chain. Now, I do get that the schools were paid for by taxes, but these taxes come in the form of business or property tax and allocated as necessary from the collection coffers, businesses pay more taxes than we do and so do wealthy people in said business, they pay more on that as well.

    EDIT- let's also not forget that many children are home schooled which takes them out of the expense equation to a certain degree, many of those kids tend to outperform public school students at a pretty high rate, and are about on par with private schools, also taken out of the expense equation.
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    s a matter of fact, in my state many of the millionaires only graduated high school or GED and worked their way up the chain. Now, I do get that the schools were paid for by taxes, but these taxes come in the form of business or property tax and allocated as necessary from the collection coffers, businesses pay more taxes than we do and so do wealthy people in said business, they pay more on that as well.
    Most of the education payed for, for children, is k-12. We only provide a small amount of money to comm. colleges and state schools.

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    Re: The Duty of Corporations

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
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    Most of the education payed for, for children, is k-12. We only provide a small amount of money to comm. colleges and state schools.
    I get that. The key argument is still the same, the corporate taxes are higher and also pay for a great portion of that and on top they pay to further educate their employees at their own expense.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I get that. The key argument is still the same, the corporate taxes are higher and also pay for a great portion of that and on top they pay to further educate their employees at their own expense.
    Not high enough, that is the point democrats are making. They should have to pay for ALL of it because without the infrastructure that us lower class people build, they would have not one single employee. They are a product of OUR environment, not the other way around.

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    Re: The Duty of Corporations

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    The world should be more fair.
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    Which is why we should do all we reasonably can to attempt to make it reasonably so.
    "fairness" and "justice" do not exist. They are meaningless concepts that do not apply to real life.
    “In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.” -Napoleon

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    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    "fairness" and "justice" do not exist. They are meaningless concepts that do not apply to real life.
    That is untrue, they exist if we make them exist. Evil prevails when good men fail to act. Remember that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    That is untrue, they exist if we make them exist. Evil prevails when good men fail to act. Remember that.
    Who decides what is fair and just?
    “In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.” -Napoleon

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