View Poll Results: What is the best term to describe a person who unlawfully enters the US?

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  • illegal alien

    37 45.12%
  • illegal immigrant

    21 25.61%
  • undocumented immigrant

    6 7.32%
  • unauthorized immigrant

    4 4.88%
  • illegal invader

    8 9.76%
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    Re: What is the best term to describe a person who unlawfully enters the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Illegal Immigrant and Illegal Alien seem equally accurate. I really can't think of a more appropriate term.
    I think Illegal Alien might be a better term for people who want them kicked out, because Illegal Immigrant indicates that they have immigrated illegally, as opposed to just entering the country illegally....


    If that makes sense...
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    Re: What is the best term to describe a person who unlawfully enters the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I think Illegal Alien might be a better term for people who want them kicked out, because Illegal Immigrant indicates that they have immigrated illegally, as opposed to just entering the country illegally....


    If that makes sense...
    I definitely get that. From my perspective that's largely a distinction without a difference.

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    Re: What is the best term to describe a person who unlawfully enters the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    I definitely get that. From my perspective that's largely a distinction without a difference.
    It's a slight difference.

    "Alien" would tend to indicate "not from here".

    "Immigrant" would also tend to indicate "not from here".

    The difference is, an Immigrant is someone who moved from their previous location to a new location and has every plan to stay (or at least that's how I understand it), whereas "Alien" would denote someone who is just visiting...
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    Re: What is the best term to describe a person who unlawfully enters the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    gak...it never ceases to amaze me at the sheer numbers of people who are completely incapable of recognizing sarcasm.
    maybe you should consider making honest posts from now on, as your poor attempts at sarcasm seem to be constantly failing you.

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    Re: What is the best term to describe a person who unlawfully enters the US?

    I say illegal immigrant, because illegal alien makes me think of a bunch of Yoda's force-jumping across the Rio Grande.
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    Re: What is the best term to describe a person who unlawfully enters the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I say illegal immigrant, because illegal alien makes me think of a bunch of Yoda's force-jumping across the Rio Grande.
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    Re: What is the best term to describe a person who unlawfully enters the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I say illegal immigrant, because illegal alien makes me think of a bunch of Yoda's force-jumping across the Rio Grande.

    Only two if these have anything to do with extraterrestrials.
    Alien | Define Alien at Dictionary.com
    1.
    a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization ( distinguished from citizen).
    2.
    a foreigner.
    3.
    a person who has been estranged or excluded.
    4.
    a creature from outer space; extraterrestrial.
    adjective
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    residing under a government or in a country other than that of one's birth without having or obtaining the status of citizenship there.
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    belonging or relating to aliens: alien property.
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    unlike one's own; strange; not belonging to one: alien speech.
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    adverse; hostile; opposed (usually followed by to or from ): ideas alien to modern thinking.
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    Re: What is the best term to describe a person who unlawfully enters the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    I'm not so sure about that. Why specifically does illegal immigration earn the people the label "illegal"? No other criminals get this? Something doesn't add up here.
    A person earns the title "illegal immigrant" by illegally immigrating just like someone earns the title "burglar" by burglarizing or "bank robber" by robbing a bank.

    By the poll number so far, the vast majority of people participating in this thread favor some term that includes the word "illegal." I'm glad. I don't want to ever hide the truth that the people who sneak in illegally are criminals. You break the law; you're a criminal. However, many, perhaps even most, of the illegal aliens don't think they've broken any legitimate law. Here's an image from one of their protests:



    The people in that photo claim they're indigenous and therefore simply have the right to be here. They don't. If they're from another country, they have to get permission to come here. If they're Mexican, they've also being dishonest about the whole "indigenous to this continent" thing. Mexico also has European origins; it has origins in Spain like the United States has origins in England. Many Mexicans are part Native American. So are many Americans. Mexico is not a Native American tribe that got conquered.

    Not also that they call us "squatters." They clearly don't recognize us as the legitimate sovereigns of our territory. And they're surprised that they're not welcome here? The immigrants who are welcomed with open arms are the ones who come wanting to become a part of America. They want to learn our language if they don't already know it and respect our sovereignty and live by our laws.

    Here are some more photos of their arrogance:




    Really? It actually belongs to them?



    And that true history is that Mexico signed the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo and is obligated to abide by it, thus recognizing the sovereignty of the United States over the southwestern states (and all of the other American states).

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    Re: What is the best term to describe a person who unlawfully enters the US?

    If the question is altered to "What is the best term to describe a person who unlawfully immigrated the US?" my answer is "dad" in one instance.

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    Re: What is the best term to describe a person who unlawfully enters the US?

    Luna Tick, I hate to break this to you, but there are some very good points raised by the photos in your post.
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