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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    I agree up to flash-bangs, I think they fall under concussion grenades, but that is just what I have read about them. They are definitely a tactical grenade just as a concussion is. Care to shed some light on this?

    I'm not expert on grenades; the Army didn't take me due to my hearing problem.

    To my understanding, a flash-bang and a concussion grenade are two different things. A flash bang is loud and disorienting, a stun-weapon.

    A concussion grenade COULD kill you or blow an arm off if it went off close enough, but it does not fragment and throw sharp bits of metal out up to 75 yards. It is for use when frag is too dangerous, or in confined spaces, IIRC.

    I figure you should be able to buy flash-bangs at the gun store and treat it like any weapon.

    Concussion grenades, probably ought to fall under Class III restrictions as they're potentially lethal and explosive.

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'm not expert on grenades; the Army didn't take me due to my hearing problem.

    To my understanding, a flash-bang and a concussion grenade are two different things. A flash bang is loud and disorienting, a stun-weapon.

    A concussion grenade COULD kill you or blow an arm off if it went off close enough, but it does not fragment and throw sharp bits of metal out up to 75 yards. It is for use when frag is too dangerous, or in confined spaces, IIRC.

    I figure you should be able to buy flash-bangs at the gun store and treat it like any weapon.

    Concussion grenades, probably ought to fall under Class III restrictions as they're potentially lethal and explosive.
    If you think drunken idiots with guns are bad now, I think it would be terrible if they had flash bangs. I've also read they can give sever burns.

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    Re: Ammunition

    Speaking of ammunition:

    Ashes To Ammo: How To Reload Your Dead Loved One

    When a loved one dies and is cremated, family members face a tough decision on what do with the ashes. Some want the final resting place to be spectacular — spread in the Grand Canyon, launched into space, sprinkled in Times Square; others just keep Aunt Jane's remains in an urn at home.

    "The ashes get put on the mantel, stay there for a couple of years, and then a couple of years later, they get put in the attic," says Thad Holmes. "A few years later, the house gets sold and, 'Oh gosh, we forgot the ashes!'"

    Holmes, a conservation enforcement officer in Alabama, and his buddy Clem Parnell, came up with an unusual way to honor the dead. Their company, Holy Smoke, takes your loved one's ashes and turns them into ammunition.

    Ashes To Ammo: How To Reload Your Dead Loved One : NPR

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    If you think drunken idiots with guns are bad now, I think it would be terrible if they had flash bangs. I've also read they can give sever burns.
    They can; they can start fires if they're near something flammable. I'm not suggesting we sell them in the toy department at Wal-Mart... sell them as a weapon at a dealership, along with NICS check/etc.

    Clothes irons and hair curlers can inflict severe burns or start fires too.


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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Speaking of ammunition:

    Ashes To Ammo: How To Reload Your Dead Loved One

    When a loved one dies and is cremated, family members face a tough decision on what do with the ashes. Some want the final resting place to be spectacular — spread in the Grand Canyon, launched into space, sprinkled in Times Square; others just keep Aunt Jane's remains in an urn at home.

    "The ashes get put on the mantel, stay there for a couple of years, and then a couple of years later, they get put in the attic," says Thad Holmes. "A few years later, the house gets sold and, 'Oh gosh, we forgot the ashes!'"

    Holmes, a conservation enforcement officer in Alabama, and his buddy Clem Parnell, came up with an unusual way to honor the dead. Their company, Holy Smoke, takes your loved one's ashes and turns them into ammunition.

    Ashes To Ammo: How To Reload Your Dead Loved One : NPR

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    They can; they can start fires if they're near something flammable. I'm not suggesting we sell them in the toy department at Wal-Mart... sell them as a weapon at a dealership, along with NICS check/etc.

    Clothes irons and hair curlers can inflict severe burns or start fires too.

    The world ain't a safe place...
    They are used for breaching rooms. This means they temporarily blind your victim. So, say I'm sitting in my living room and I hear my front door open. The first thin I would think would be, "who is that?". Next thing I know is I have a bunch of bullets in my chest.

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    They are used for breaching rooms. This means they temporarily blind your victim. So, say I'm sitting in my living room and I hear my front door open. The first thin I would think would be, "who is that?". Next thing I know is I have a bunch of bullets in my chest.
    Well given your scenario, the flash wouldn't make much of a difference would it? You'd hear the door open, think "who is that?," and then bullets in your chest. Whether you were flashed or not is impertinent. The only possible difference would be "what color mask was my killer wearing?"
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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    They are used for breaching rooms. This means they temporarily blind your victim. So, say I'm sitting in my living room and I hear my front door open. The first thin I would think would be, "who is that?". Next thing I know is I have a bunch of bullets in my chest.

    Flip the scenario around the other way.


    Your wife is a pacifist, of sorts. She won't use guns or anything likely to kill.

    One night you're not home and two thugs kick in the front door.

    Your wife throws a flash-bang or a teargas grenade at them to keep them busy while she and your little daughter run out the back door and over to the neighbor's house.

    See my point?

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Flip the scenario around the other way.


    Your wife is a pacifist, of sorts. She won't use guns or anything likely to kill.

    One night you're not home and two thugs kick in the front door.

    Your wife throws a flash-bang or a teargas grenade at them to keep them busy while she and your little daughter run out the back door and over to the neighbor's house.

    See my point?
    Seems we have entered the grey area.

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    If you think drunken idiots with guns are bad now, I think it would be terrible if they had flash bangs. I've also read they can give sever burns.
    Well yeah, but a gun can kill you.
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