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    Re: Ammunition

    How about hand grandes? I guess they sort of qualify as a munition. Should they be legal to buy/own?

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    Re: Ammunition

    Currently, pre-1986 SMG's are under Class III licensure which is pretty restrictive. More recent SMGs you can't buy as a civilian, except for the semiauto versions which I don't see much point in.

    I don't have much use for an SMG anyway. I'd rather have a semiauto shotgun.

    They are fun to play with though, got the gosh-wow-cool factor going on. SWAT bud let me play with an MP5 loaded with tracers one time, makes a nice show after dark at a range.
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    I don't mind people using ANY (obviously not any) weapon at a range. I think short of bombs/explosives you should be able to have fun with the weapon.

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    I can just imagine some dirtbag who manages to make a nuclear weapon and then finds a slick lawyer tho successfully argues that it's a form of ammunition. I therefore voted no.


    You have a VERY active imagination.


    I'd also guess you may not be up to speed on how complex and difficult nukes are to make... and to maintain.

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    How about hand grandes? I guess they sort of qualify as a munition. Should they be legal to buy/own?
    purely offensive weapons that are do not meet the normal standards. I don't consider them arms either but Ordnance or artillery


    but until we all can own the stuff we ought to be able to own-SMGs and assault rifles its not worth discussing grey area stuff



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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    You have a VERY active imagination.


    I'd also guess you may not be up to speed on how complex and difficult nukes are to make... and to maintain.
    fast acting cancer and radioactive poisoning is a real bitch slap for those trying to make "Fat boy" in their basement



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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    SMG's are commonly used by CIVILIAN police officers. Thus other civilians need to be able to own them. Cops cannot use weapons for any reason other than defensive purposes. we don't have free fire zones in urban America
    I think there are some arguments for banning SMG's and machine pistols, since they pack a lot of firepower into an easily concealable package. With that said, if they're banned for civilians use, they should be banned for ALL civilian use, cops included. Anyway, an SMG really doesn't have all that many advantages over a sawed-off shotgun, and those are the easiest types of guns to get.
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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    You have a VERY active imagination.


    I'd also guess you may not be up to speed on how complex and difficult nukes are to make... and to maintain.
    No one on this forum is seriously for nukes being publicly owned are they?

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Should 20mm grenades be legal?

    It would be reasonable to restrict 20mm explosive ammo. Explosives are a whole 'nuther ballgame, the tendency to damage multiple targets in an area-of-effect is a world of difference from any ordinary bullet.

    IMHO they should be under something like Class III restrictions.

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    I think there are some arguments for banning SMG's and machine pistols, since they pack a lot of firepower into an easily concealable package. With that said, if they're banned for civilians use, they should be banned for ALL civilian use, cops included. Anyway, an SMG really doesn't have all that many advantages over a sawed-off shotgun, and those are the easiest types of guns to get.
    Tactically I think they do. and you mean sawed-offs are the easiest guns to MAKE.

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    I think there are some arguments for banning SMG's and machine pistols, since they pack a lot of firepower into an easily concealable package. With that said, if they're banned for civilians use, they should be banned for ALL civilian use, cops included. Anyway, an SMG really doesn't have all that many advantages over a sawed-off shotgun, and those are the easiest types of guns to get.
    If the state of Ohio issues MP-5s to some of its law enforcement agencies (it does) and if the federal government issues MP-5s to the FBI and other CIVILIAN LAW Enforcement agencies those governmental units should be permanently estopped from claiming such weapons have no legitimate use for other CIVILIANS



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