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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Normally hollowpoint

    the most popular police and LEO loads include

    1) federal Hydrashock
    that's what I got for my wife on the recommendation of a friend who understands pistol rounds much better than I do.

    Pistol knowledge is a weakness of mine.


    what do you think of tactical safeties and fingerprint identification locks? as our boys get older, we were thinking about getting the latter, and programming it for ourselves.

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Have you ever considered capital offenses to be the problem? Could I recommend a book on the subject? You seem ignorant on the subject. Not saying you are a country redneck, you just seem to be okaying it because it was okayed yesterday.
    color me curious - how many children do you have?

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    color me curious - how many children do you have?
    What does that have to do with this conversation?

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    I thought you were a lawyer...
    and a world class shooter and well known expert on defensive shooting. I had to shoot someone when I was a grad student. I became expert on that subject. and I noted I was a prosecuting attorney at some point. I also represented a major league police agency in shooting litigation.

    I can advise you what to choose for self defense and if you have to whack a cockroach I can help you there too.



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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Jyran
    What does that have to do with this conversation?
    So... none?




    what it has to do with the conversation is that RW experience outweighs self-described experts pontificating in books. You have two people who are parents here who have had positive experiences with working spanking into a disciplinary regime. So I am curious as to your personal experience raising children without it.
    Last edited by cpwill; 10-12-11 at 10:42 PM.

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and a world class shooter and well known expert on defensive shooting. I had to shoot someone when I was a grad student. I became expert on that subject. and I noted I was a prosecuting attorney at some point. I also represented a major league police agency in shooting litigation.

    I can advise you what to choose for self defense and if you have to whack a cockroach I can help you there too.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/off-to...l-account.html

    You didn't respond to my thread though , which does pertain to this thread, I sort of would like to know if I can get a gun myself. Oddly enough, this thread has convinced me that I should own one if I legally can.

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    So... none?




    what it has to do with the conversation is that RW experience outweighs self-described experts pontificating in books. You have two people who are parents here who have had positive experiences with working spanking into a disciplinary regime. So I am curious as to your personal experience raising children without it.
    You just excluded psychologist and neuroscience, wow... I didn't think anyone could ever do this on the subject.
    Last edited by Jryan; 10-12-11 at 10:44 PM.

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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Have you ever considered capital offenses to be the problem? Could I recommend a book on the subject? You seem ignorant on the subject. Not saying you are a country redneck, you just seem to be okaying it because it was okayed yesterday.
    Again, you're making mighty big assumption without knowing me.

    I grew up in the era of Dr. Spock. No, not the guy with the ears on Star Trek, the first big-name Doctor to write a book on child-rearing that said Don't Spank.

    MY parents didn't hold with Dr Spock. They applied a switch or belt when they felt it was necessary, though not really that often. They raised 4 well-behaved children who are now mature adults, not one of which has ever spent a single night in jail.

    I SAW with my own eyes, growing up and as a young man, children whose parents refused to spank, were afraid to scold too harshly, and in short were very light-handed with the discipline. Mostly it didn't work out too good; lots of their kids turned out to be undisciplined rogues who made bad choices and ****ed up their own lives and the lives of others... a fair few of the spoiled little darlin's ended up on the wrong side of the law and are currently doing life in prison.

    Now I have this strange facility that springs from the frontal lobes of my brain: the ability to observe the behavior of others and see what works and what doesn't. From what I've seen the two keys to raising a child who becomes a successful and happy adult are 1. Lots of love and 2. as much consistent discipline as necessary, including spankings when young if needed.

    Read a book? Hell I'm writing one. It's called Beat that Ass: How to Raise Children Even Your Neighbors Will Love.
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    Re: Ammunition

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/off-to...l-account.html

    You didn't respond to my thread though , which does pertain to this thread, I sort of would like to know if I can get a gun myself. Oddly enough, this thread has convinced me that I should own one if I legally can.
    if you are over 21 you can-what state are you in



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    Re: Ammunition

    so yes. you who are here lecturing us on how to raise our own children, have raised precisely zero yourself.

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