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How much does Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?

How much does Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?

  • He could be elected.

    Votes: 17 70.8%
  • He could be nominated but not elected.

    Votes: 3 12.5%
  • He could not be nominated.

    Votes: 2 8.3%
  • Who the heck is Mitt Romney?

    Votes: 2 8.3%

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Handling the Mormon issue - Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com

Romney supporters say there’s little point in trying to sway voters who may have ruled out the Republican for his Mormon religion – a group that may or may not be large enough to pose a serious political obstacle to the former Massachusetts governor.

“For social and religious conservatives who really care primarily about values, I think they’ll be very happy with Mitt Romney,” said evangelical public relations executive Mark DeMoss, a Romney supporter. “For those few who are bent on drawing theological boundaries, it’ll be different.”

This seems to be one of the issues of discussion today so I was curious, how big a deal do you think Mitt Romney's religious faith will be in getting nominated and elected? Some people view the LDS church as a cult and argue that they are not really Christians. Of course, a lot of the same people argue that Obama is a Muslim, so who knows how important their vote really is.

How much does Mitt Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?
 
I could see if he was an atheist his beliefs having an effect, but as long as he is a christian...
 
I think the only people who care, are probably the hardcore evangelicals. Not sure what their size is or how much influence they have though.
 
I think the only people who care, are probably the hardcore evangelicals. Not sure what their size is or how much influence they have though.


The hardcore evangelicals are probably voting ABO this year.


(Anybody But Obama)
 
I think it will hurt him somewhat. I think the hardcore christians like the pastor that introduced Perry would likely not bother voting. I dont think it will have the impact the lack of the black vote will have on Obama, but I think it will balance the two out a little bit. My money (not my hopes) is still on Obama and the status quo winning. With any luck the senate will change hands and we will have a stalemate for another 4 years.
 
I could see if he was an atheist his beliefs having an effect, but as long as he is a christian...

...ah, but therein lies the problem; is he or isn't he a Christian. I always believed this was the one thing that would keep him from getting the nomination, and I still believe it. This issue has only begun to rear its ugly head....
 
...ah, but therein lies the problem; is he or isn't he a Christian. I always believed this was the one thing that would keep him from getting the nomination, and I still believe it. This issue has only begun to rear its ugly head....

So you think Mormon's aren't Christians then?
 
I think it will hurt him somewhat. I think the hardcore christians like the pastor that introduced Perry would likely not bother voting. I dont think it will have the impact the lack of the black vote will have on Obama, but I think it will balance the two out a little bit. My money (not my hopes) is still on Obama and the status quo winning. With any luck the senate will change hands and we will have a stalemate for another 4 years.

Sorry, but 4 years more of a stalemate is a complete disaster. You can not have a country in crisis and just do nothing....
 
Sorry, but 4 years more of a stalemate is a complete disaster. You can not have a country in crisis and just do nothing....
Grabbing ahold of the wheel, pulling hard left, and driving over a cliff is not a positive alternative. I believe Obama will be reelected. I believe the senate under dem control has been the model of ineptitude since 2007. Balanced powers may be the best that we can hope for. Personally I'd PREFER to see them ALL voted out...every one of them, and have them start from scratch. Given our options?
 
The hardcore evangelicals are probably voting ABO this year.


(Anybody But Obama)

There is the chance that they'll stay home given the choice of Romney or Obama. That would hurt Romney as a Republican.
 
Grabbing ahold of the wheel, pulling hard left, and driving over a cliff is not a positive alternative. I believe Obama will be reelected. I believe the senate under dem control has been the model of ineptitude since 2007. Balanced powers may be the best that we can hope for. Personally I'd PREFER to see them ALL voted out...every one of them, and have them start from scratch. Given our options?

You're an "Independent" and you think Obama wants to pull "hard left"? You would have to have a pretty hard conservative political outlook to come to that conclusion. Me thinks you are an IINO..
 
How much does Mitt Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?

It will not hurt his electability at all.If anything will hurt his electability it is his liberalism and flip flopping that will hurt his electability. Conservatives who know better will not elect a RINO and liberal democrats already have a liberal and will not vote for one with a R next to his name.
 
You're an "Independent" and you think Obama wants to pull "hard left"? You would have to have a pretty hard conservative political outlook to come to that conclusion. Me thinks you are an IINO..

Independent just means he's not a member of the Democratic or Republican parties. You could be quite Conservative and an independent. Which is what I believe Vance is, based on other posts in other threads.
 
Other than Obama's slip ups saying he was a Muslim personal Religion has only been an when JFK was running. There were some who tried to convince people that being a Roman Catholic would affect his decisions, and of course it never happened.

I think that it you look at Romney's record should tell the tail it will also show what kind of leader he is.

The important thig is he could be Obama and that is what this Nation needs most.
 
The problem is that your religion makes up your belief system; therefore, religion does run at least some of your thought processes.
 
I think it will hurt him somewhat. I think the hardcore christians like the pastor that introduced Perry would likely not bother voting. I dont think it will have the impact the lack of the black vote will have on Obama, but I think it will balance the two out a little bit. My money (not my hopes) is still on Obama and the status quo winning. With any luck the senate will change hands and we will have a stalemate for another 4 years.

In a time of incredible change around the world and in our own country, in a time of economic uncertainty and strife, you choose another 4 years where nothing can be done by anyone because of the divisive split in power. What does that accomplish anyone?
 
Independent just means he's not a member of the Democratic or Republican parties. You could be quite Conservative and an independent. Which is what I believe Vance is, based on other posts in other threads.

Which makes him independent in name only.... The question is about "lean", not party affiliation. I don't know of anyone else that answered "lean" by designating a party.
 
Handling the Mormon issue - Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com



This seems to be one of the issues of discussion today so I was curious, how big a deal do you think Mitt Romney's religious faith will be in getting nominated and elected? Some people view the LDS church as a cult and argue that they are not really Christians. Of course, a lot of the same people argue that Obama is a Muslim, so who knows how important their vote really is.

How much does Mitt Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?

Before I get started allow it to be known that I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone's religious beliefs, I am merely curious to hear from a perspective I do not currently understand. As an atheist it is difficult for me to distinguish between a cult and religion, especially the Mormons and other Christian denominations. To insinuate that their beliefs are too far out there seems slightly disingenuous, Christians as a whole believe that an invisible omnipotent being created the earth in 6 days and then rested on the seventh(why he's both all powerful and sleepy is a confusing prospect in itself), they believe that their Lord's son was born to a virgin mother and that he could walk on water. These leaps of faith are supposed to be what strengthens the power of their belief and yet the Mormons add in a couple more things and somehow they can be characterized as a cult. Why?
 
Which makes him independent in name only.... The question is about "lean", not party affiliation. I don't know of anyone else that answered "lean" by designating a party.

Independent =/= centrist or moderate. If he is not a member of a party, he is "independent." If you think that shouldn't be an option on lean, take it up with a mod.
 
Mitt Romney is a good fine person. His beliefs are solid in his faith. Nothing wrong with that.
The only thing is this.....Rick Perry who is fine Christian, will be our next President.

And all those Islamic an Athiest that do nothing but bash the Christian Faith. OH WELL!!

Heeello:2wave:​
 
Mitt Romney is a good fine person. His beliefs are solid in his faith. Nothing wrong with that.
The only thing is this.....Rick Perry who is fine Christian, will be our next President.

And all those Islamic an Athiest that do nothing but bash the Christian Faith. OH WELL!!

Heeello:2wave:​

Rick Perry, the man who said we should just leave the economic situation in the hands of god.... Have you read the bible... It states rather explicitly that God does not interfere in the workings of man. It also says some things about how judgment belongs in the hands of god, and that to kill another person is a sin, yet you and your brethren cheer the outrageous number of executions carried out in Perry's state. I would like a truly Christian president, he might have a little more compassion for the poor. Rick Perry however, at least based upon the things that he does and says is not a true Christian.
 
So you think Mormon's aren't Christians then?

That is not what I was trying to say.... but, given that I run a bit in evangelical circles and have many Mormon relatives, so I know a little more about this then the average Joe (but in no means consider myself an expert on the Mormon Church...). I know how evangelicals feel about Mormons, and why. Its not bigotry any more than the Christian stance on homosexuality is not bigotry. Both are very volatile issues. The major problem with Mormonism is that they have created a full doctrine, the Book of Mormon, which they elevate to a full Testament. The "wrongness" of this is spelled out in 2 Peter, and is the basis for the belief amongst a large part, if not a majority, of mainstream Christians that Mormon church is a cult (that does not, however, mean that Mormons are not or can not be Christians)

The Christian Church has some 3,000 branches (denominations). The church thus has divided at least 1,500 times over doctrine ("we have it right, you have it wrong"), and mostly very silly things in the eternal view of things. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about a written test to enter the Kingdom.... so substantially all of these doctrinal debates have been somewhat moot to even sinful (pitting brother against brother, focusing on differences rather than commonality, only serves to distract from the glorification of God). How one feels about Baptism by submersion vs. sprinkling water is not relevant. Though there is a single truth, and all man seeks it, getting it substantially right (accepting Christ as your personal savior and loving God with all your heart) is really all that matters.

To your direct question, I don't believe most Christians are Christians, as being a Christian requires significant personal transformation of the heart, including the renunciation of this world. Most church goers and seekers never get there. I have always believed there are more "saved" people in the average prison (where people are broken and take the time to really look at their lives) then the average church (where people live this lie that salvation is about showing up on Sunday). However, I am not personally qualified to tell you who is a Christian and who is not. I do not attempt to judge that issue. Only God knows if the heart of a particular person is right. Only God knows if Romney is a true Christian, not some pastor from Texas.

I try not to be judgmental, but evangelicals (often the new "born-agains"), as a lot, can be amongst the most judgmental of all. That is what makes this a hot issue.
 
Handling the Mormon issue - Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com



This seems to be one of the issues of discussion today so I was curious, how big a deal do you think Mitt Romney's religious faith will be in getting nominated and elected? Some people view the LDS church as a cult and argue that they are not really Christians. Of course, a lot of the same people argue that Obama is a Muslim, so who knows how important their vote really is.

How much does Mitt Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?

when the other candidates refuse to disavow a backwoods other-hating evangelical preacher....i'd say you're in trouble.
 
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