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    Re: How much does Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    The way I see it, 40% of the voters will vote for a democrat regardless and their vote cannot be changed.

    40% will vote for a Republican regardless and their vote cannot be changed.

    That least the 20% in the middle. The undecided. IMO this group are generally the best informed and knowledgeable, and reserve their decision until much later.
    Sadly, I think that most candidates just don't get this, and pander to those whose vote they already have.

    I don't think the 20% will care if Romney is Mormon or not as long as he doesn't make it a campaign issue. Kennedy carried this group in far worse times. Those who believe in UHC will vote for Romney. Those who do not will vote against him.
    I agree with this, but I found it interesting that in a Reason magazine article a few months ago about independents, a person in the DNC stated the opposite. He felt that independents were the least knowledgeable.

    Can we say "biased interest"?

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    Re: How much does Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?

    The constitution says that there should be no religious test for any public a office. Most of our founding fathers weren't even christian. They were either atheists or deists. They wouldn't care if romney is or isn't a christian.

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    Re: How much does Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I agree with this, but I found it interesting that in a Reason magazine article a few months ago about independents, a person in the DNC stated the opposite. He felt that independents were the least knowledgeable.

    Can we say "biased interest"?
    actually I would bet that would be correct. talk to any "undecided" voter a month before an election.

    "well, i'm still looking to see where they stand on the issues."

    "okay, like what?"

    "well, like, the economy, and stuff"

    "alright, well, what specifically about the economy"

    "well, like, it's important"


    and so forth. these people generally aren't independent because they've weighed competing worldview a priori assumptions and found them both wanting in favor of a third set - they are independent because they don't bother to self educate, and thus have no idea which set of a priori assumptions they are closest to.

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    Re: How much does Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    actually I would bet that would be correct. talk to any "undecided" voter a month before an election.

    "well, i'm still looking to see where they stand on the issues."

    "okay, like what?"

    "well, like, the economy, and stuff"

    "alright, well, what specifically about the economy"

    "well, like, it's important"


    and so forth. these people generally aren't independent because they've weighed competing worldview a priori assumptions and found them both wanting in favor of a third set - they are independent because they don't bother to self educate, and thus have no idea which set of a priori assumptions they are closest to.
    "Independent" does not necessarily equate to "undecided", or uninformed (as the implication goes). On the flip side there are many people still within the parties that really don't know a damn thing either... except what they're told they should believe.

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    Re: How much does Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    The constitution says that there should be no religious test for any public a office. Most of our founding fathers weren't even christian. They were either atheists or deists. They wouldn't care if romney is or isn't a christian.
    They would be smart enough to know The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are Christians.

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    Re: How much does Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?

    Most of our founding fathers being atheists or deists, would probably be a bigger deal, were they to run nowadays, then it was back then. They didn't have media dogging everything they did, and the average citizen probably hadn't heard if they were or weren't christian. The GOP is supposed to be a bit worried about loss of some evangelical christian vote with Romney. But, I think most of those folks would likely still vote for him over Obama. I've said before, I'm less concerned about Romney's Mormonism than his flipping on issues.
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    Re: How much does Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?

    Quote Originally Posted by laska View Post
    They would be smart enough to know The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are Christians.
    Maybe, I guess. Idk. I'm not a christian and don't care if romney is or isn't. I would like him more if he wasn't.

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    Re: How much does Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    The way I see it, 40% of the voters will vote for a democrat regardless and their vote cannot be changed.

    40% will vote for a Republican regardless and their vote cannot be changed.

    That least the 20% in the middle. The undecided. IMO this group are generally the best informed and knowledgeable, and reserve their decision until much later.
    Sadly, I think that most candidates just don't get this, and pander to those whose vote they already have.

    I don't think the 20% will care if Romney is Mormon or not as long as he doesn't make it a campaign issue. Kennedy carried this group in far worse times. Those who believe in UHC will vote for Romney. Those who do not will vote against him.
    Generally I'd agree, but in this Romney is Mormon case, I donít agree. The 20% middle has fewer of the dogma following voters than the 40%, groups as you divide them up. The far or evangelical right may not have anyone to vote for if then believe one is a Moslem and the other Mormon; and, if they believe one is a Baptist he may get the vote regardless of party.

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    Re: How much does Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?

    I don't think it matters much at all, but if he gets the nomination, he still has a long way to go to beat Obama....
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