View Poll Results: Should the GOP should fear the 99% movement

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  • Absolutely should fear it

    33 31.13%
  • Somewhat fear it

    9 8.49%
  • Fear it a little bit

    3 2.83%
  • Fear it a tiny bit

    3 2.83%
  • Absolutely nothing to fear

    47 44.34%
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    1 0.94%
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    How do you propose the unemployed, poor, and seniors pay more in taxes? No, I do not wish the government spend more and more. I have suggested time and again that cut drastically our most wasteful spending, our optional wars and bloated military spending of the last 30 years.

    People can no longer justify giving tax breaks to people just because they are wealthy without creating jobs with the extra income they have due to the huge tax cuts that were provided to them.
    are you saying they have zero dollars available?

    If you cannot afford more taxes maybe you should demand LESS GOVERNMENT rather than demanding others pay for stuff you think you need.

    The rich pay far more than they should

    based on what they use
    and their share of the income

    you want a system where everyone but the rich are encouraged to demand more government



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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    are you saying they have zero dollars available?
    Where do the unemployed, seniors and the poor get money to pay more in taxes then they already are???

    If you cannot afford more taxes maybe you should demand LESS GOVERNMENT rather than demanding others pay for stuff you think you need.
    We are demanding less government. We are demanding less wars and cutting military spending back to defense only.

    The rich pay far more than they should
    If you own most of the money, you are going to pay most of the taxes. We will try to remedy this problem for you.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Where do the unemployed, seniors and the poor get money to pay more in taxes then they already are???



    We are demanding less government. We are demanding less wars and cutting military spending back to defense only.



    If you own most of the money, you are going to pay most of the taxes. We will try to remedy this problem for you.
    seniors and the poor have ZERO dollars to spare? they don't have cell phones, tv's etc?

    your envy of the rich is pathetic but you avoid the main issue

    people who don't have to pay for more government tend to be the ones who push for more government



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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    seniors and the poor have ZERO dollars to spare? they don't have cell phones, tv's etc?

    your envy of the rich is pathetic but you avoid the main issue

    people who don't have to pay for more government tend to be the ones who push for more government
    td, not everyone envies the rich, despite your silly proclamations. i take it you would have the elderly and poor live without phones? or even tvs? i disagree with that, and my disagreement does not make me envy you.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    td, not everyone envies the rich, despite your silly proclamations. i take it you would have the elderly and poor live without phones? or even tvs? i disagree with that, and my disagreement does not make me envy you.
    true, not everyone gets on a message board constantly whining about the rich. ITs those who do I believe are envious or spiteful towards the rich.

    I would have those who demand more government actually be taxed to pay for what they want.


    right now half of America pays no income taxes and thus has NO INCENTIVE WHATSOEVER to demand less government



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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    seniors and the poor have ZERO dollars to spare? they don't have cell phones, tv's etc?
    I see, you expect seniors, unemployed, and the poor to give up phones and tvs bought at the thrift store so the rich can buy another yacht. Dream on little turtledude.

    your envy of the rich is pathetic but you avoid the main issue
    The only envy I have is for a strong middle class that we used have when taxes were more progressive.

    people who don't have to pay for more government tend to be the ones who push for more government
    Exactly, if the rich had not been receiving huge tax breaks for the last 30 years they would not have pushed for such wasteful spending on optional wars and bloated military spending.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Unless they get some goals and direction, no, the GOP doesn't need to fear the Occupiers. They're a rag-tag, disjointed mass of neo-hippies and anti-capitalists, with a muddled message and no proposed solutions.

    As much as they claim to be the 99%, they don't represent the majority of Americans. Most Americans do not think all corporations are evil and that the capitalist system should be scrapped. While most Americans realize some reforms are necessary, they also know where their paychecks come from, and who produces the products and services we all use.

    Personally, I would be much more impressed if the Occupiers went out and got occupied. Don't camp out in a New York park, trying to get screen time on Rachel Maddow's show while you scream about Goldman Sachs. If you truly care about the millions of Americans who are hurting, go out and volunteer at a soup kitchen, at a food bank, at a school. Be a tutor, a mentor, a Big Brother or Big Sister. I'd be much more likely to listen to their message--assuming it were focused--if they did something like that than if they just spend endless weeks in drum circles and consensus-building call-and-answer sessions.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I see, you expect seniors, unemployed, and the poor to give up phones and tvs bought at the thrift store so the rich can buy another yacht. Dream on little turtledude.



    The only envy I have is for a strong middle class that we used have when taxes were more progressive.



    Exactly, if the rich had not been receiving huge tax breaks for the last 30 years they would not have pushed for such wasteful spending on optional wars and bloated military spending.
    More dishonesty

    the vast vast majority of those deemed rich cannot afford yachts.

    secondly you completely ignore the problems that come from a huge number of people who don't pay income taxes yet clamor for higher rates on those who do.

    Your crap about the military is rather telling--you completely ignore the fact that it is entitlements and handouts that are costing us the most



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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    are you saying they have zero dollars available?

    If you cannot afford more taxes maybe you should demand LESS GOVERNMENT rather than demanding others pay for stuff you think you need.

    The rich pay far more than they should

    based on what they use
    and their share of the income

    you want a system where everyone but the rich are encouraged to demand more government
    Well they are using more of the countrys total available wealth than everybody else.

    All the money is issued by the govt, remember.

    Hell, as fiat currency, it only EXISTS because the govt says it does.

    Money is created by govts to carry energy through the economy.

    Portable stored negative entropy.

    When the money over-concentrates, it stops serving this purpose for the economy as a whole and only serves its owners.

    When it sits in one place doing nothing, as with the two trillion dollars sidelined by business, the economy as a whole suffers.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Well they are using more of the countrys total available wealth than everybody else.

    All the money is issued by the govt, remember.

    Hell, as fiat currency, it only EXISTS because the govt says it does.

    Money is created by govts to carry energy through the economy.

    Portable stored negative entropy.

    When the money over-concentrates, it stops serving this purpose for the economy as a whole and only serves its owners.

    When it sits in one place doing nothing, as with the two trillion dollars sidelined by business, the economy as a whole suffers.
    You pretend the wealth is something owned collectively and If i "take" more wealth I take from you and others

    and one of the main reasons why corporations and individuals are storing wealth is because the idiot in the white house has no clear clue on how to run things. smart people are guarding against massive tax hikes and other schemes that asswipe may spring on us



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