View Poll Results: Should the GOP should fear the 99% movement

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  • Absolutely should fear it

    33 31.13%
  • Somewhat fear it

    9 8.49%
  • Fear it a little bit

    3 2.83%
  • Fear it a tiny bit

    3 2.83%
  • Absolutely nothing to fear

    47 44.34%
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    1 0.94%
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Thread: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    I see you are another of the conservatives here who only believe what the right-wing media sources tell you is true. Do a little research on what tax rates on the rich were during the Us's most prosperous times. It is not something Cain, Fox or the GOP are going to tell you - you will have to look at the data yourself and decide if a case can be made for your opinion.
    Do a little research about the tax rates and tax revenue, and you will realize it is hardly relevant what the tax rates are among the top 1%. Increasing tax rates for only the richest of the richest may feel good, but will not solve the deficit and actually may hurt the economy.

    Secondly, many of them own companies. When you increase their taxes, then they will just raise prices.

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    Do a little research about the tax rates and tax revenue, and you will realize it is hardly relevant what the tax rates are among the top 1%. Increasing tax rates for only the richest of the richest may feel good, but will not solve the deficit and actually may hurt the economy.

    Secondly, many of them own companies. When you increase their taxes, then they will just raise prices.
    I guess then you have to prove that the prices they raise are equal to or more than what the revenue benefits would be. You kind of leave that hanging. Also, it does matter what the higher bracket is taxed because when they were taxed at 90% back in the Eisenhower era it had the direct effect of companies investing in their growth rather than their executives and it showed in the economic stability.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Something like this isnt looking for legitimacy, its not looking for a clear message...its all about a wakeup call to all the working class that have just been just sitting back like lambs letting a handful of far right teapartiers dictate....its already started to wake them up
    You are exactly right. Many seem to think this is just another political action demonstration.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    you know all those tax breaks that the people are protesting out there in the OWS movement? yeah - the tea party had a bill passed through the House (died in the Senate) that pulled out every single one.



    I would like to see your backing for any kind of actual tea party push to abolish social security, mediare, and medicaid.

    because it's certainly not what they're telling pollsters: 70% of Tea Party Supporters Oppose Cuts to Medicare and Medicaid



    actually, the Ryan Plan was the budget that took out all the tax breaks for the wealthy and corporations.



    actually that is accurate. there is good reason why the auto companies up north are dying while the auto factories down south are booming.


    again, you seem woefully uninformed on that which you rant about continually. where are you getting your information?


    I would like to see your backing for any kind of actual tea party push to abolish social security, mediare, and medicaid.

    You wont see it from me..Im against it.


    I would like to see your backing for any kind of actual tea party push to abolish social security, mediare, and medicaid.

    because it's certainly not what they're telling pollsters: 70% of Tea Party Supporters Oppose Cuts to Medicare and Medicaid

    I wasnt talking about the rank and file teapartiers...I was talking about the teaparty greedster politicians....CP most of the teaparty supporters are not RICH
    teaparty politicians are of the rich and for the rich...the supporters are well many are just dopey



    actually, the Ryan Plan was the budget that took out all the tax breaks for the wealthy and corporations.

    Ryans plan did not take out ALL of them..took out some and gave the rich a whopping 28% decrease along with corps along with elminating the capitol gains and inheritance tax....BILLIONS upon billions more in tax CUTS
    Ryans plan gutted Social Security and Medicare and shifted more costs to the middle class...Ryan was full of chit


    actually that is accurate. there is good reason why the auto companies up north are dying while the auto factories down south are booming.

    Honda one of your booming down south corporations....NON UNION...is in the process of building a billion dollar plant in MEXICO to supply the USA and CANADA....there goes your its the unions fault out the window CP....ITS GREED and thats all its ever been

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    as opposed to the even more tired old lie that taxing the rich more helps anyone other than a few dem politcians?
    It allows us to not have to cut public services for the poor so that the rich don't have to pay an extra 4% in income tax. So it does help, it just doesn't help you.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I would like to see your backing for any kind of actual tea party push to abolish social security, mediare, and medicaid.

    You wont see it from me..Im against it.
    so you don't have any actual... you know... "evidence", or anything....

    I wasnt talking about the rank and file teapartiers...I was talking about the teaparty greedster politicians....CP most of the teaparty supporters are not RICH
    teaparty politicians are of the rich and for the rich...the supporters are well many are just dopey

    oooooohhhh, it's a conspiracy.

    actually, the Ryan Plan was the budget that took out all the tax breaks for the wealthy and corporations.

    Ryans plan did not take out ALL of them..took out some and gave the rich a whopping 28% decrease along with corps along with elminating the capitol gains and inheritance tax....BILLIONS upon billions more in tax CUTS
    you are confusing the Roadmap with the Ryan Plan. The Ryan Budget that Republicans passed through the House which eliminated those loopholes did not eliminate the capitol gains or the inheritance taxes.

    Ryans plan gutted Social Security and Medicare and shifted more costs to the middle class..
    actually the Ryan Plan was criticized for not touching Social Security, but instead only saving Medicare.

    Honda one of your booming down south corporations....NON UNION...is in the process of building a billion dollar plant in MEXICO to supply the USA and CANADA....there goes your its the unions fault out the window CP....ITS GREED and thats all its ever been
    Honda can build anywhere it likes - it chose to build in free labor states because we are better states to do business in. that's why, over the past decade, unionized states have lost jobs while right to work states have gained them. Toyota built all over the south too (my brother works at one of their plants as an engineer; and is paid much better than I am), even Mercedes is there.

    If you want to see what a city looks like with no corporatism (read: unionism) look at Hong Kong. If you want to see what one looks like with lots of unionism, look at Detroit.

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    You're worried about the deficit? Raising taxes would definitely help.

    Btw, do you admit that "cutting taxes on the rich will create jobs" is a lie, then?
    that is a bogus claim

    only taxing the rich more will encourage dem politicians to claim that such tax hikes will raise revenue (not a proven fact) and that will be used to justify more social spending to buy votes

    Only taxing the rich more will send a message to everyone else that they aren't required to pay more taxes to deal with the deficit or to pay for the additional spending Obama wants to buy their votes so they will continue to clamor for more government

    the only way to stop the deficit increasing is for the majority of America to demand less spending and that is far less likely to happen when only 1-3% of America is tasked with more taxes

    of course "shared sacrifice" of everyone paying more taxes-ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO DON'T PAY FOR WHAT THEY USE AND WANT NOW" is gonna cost politicians votes



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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    I see you are another of the conservatives here who only believe what the right-wing media sources tell you is true. Do a little research on what tax rates on the rich were during the Us's most prosperous times. It is not something Cain, Fox or the GOP are going to tell you - you will have to look at the data yourself and decide if a case can be made for your opinion.
    anyone who makes the claim that the high marginal (which may or may not have translated into higher effective rates) rates on the rich is responsible for that prosperity is ignorant of economic reality-reality that involved us being the only economic superpower due to the War.

    The rich also paid a LOWER Share of the income tax burden back then too



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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    I see you are another of the conservatives here who only believe what the right-wing media sources tell you is true. Do a little research on what tax rates on the rich were during the Us's most prosperous times. It is not something Cain, Fox or the GOP are going to tell you - you will have to look at the data yourself and decide if a case can be made for your opinion.
    Like most liberals, you missed my point and jumped straight to a topic you think you can win. My point was and is that the 99% movement is about determining what people can earn and you've demonstrated that that is absolutely the case.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Like most liberals, you missed my point and jumped straight to a topic you think you can win. My point was and is that the 99% movement is about determining what people can earn and you've demonstrated that that is absolutely the case.
    The movement is about what is best for the majority of the country rather than what is has been like for the last 3 decades, what is best for the richest 1%.
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