View Poll Results: Should the GOP should fear the 99% movement

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  • Absolutely should fear it

    33 31.13%
  • Somewhat fear it

    9 8.49%
  • Fear it a little bit

    3 2.83%
  • Fear it a tiny bit

    3 2.83%
  • Absolutely nothing to fear

    47 44.34%
  • Don't know

    1 0.94%
  • Don't care

    6 5.66%
  • Other (explian)

    4 3.77%
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's only true if, take home pay was an accurate way to define total compensation and income, but since it isn't, that isn't true at all.
    The middle class shrinkage, is a myth.
    Please just keep repeating this to the middle class, and to the poor that used to be middle class, as we approach the election, please keep repeating this as often as you can!!! Thanks!
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    are you aware that the current democratic policy is to begin cutting your medicare benefits in 2014?
    Please tell us how Earl's medicare benefits will be cut in 2014???
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Mitt Romney changes his position maybe as often as he changes his under wear, Rick Perry's distain for SS along with other undesirable traits he has makes him a candidate I could/would not trust, Herman Cain does not seem to have SS payments in his 999 plan. Any candidate with Tea Party support would be a candidate I would not trust to represent main street Americans

    so, no. you can't. nor can you explain claiming to support the Obama Administration because he will protect entitlements when Democrats are the only party calling for cutting entitlements for current seniors.

    well, it's good to know that at least you stick to your principles. Democrats are going to deeply cut your medicare, but you're staying with them.

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    how so given Obama got more support from wall street than any candidate in recent history.
    You are behind in the times. Once Wall Street found out the Democrats were not going to play ball, they switched teams. Most of the big corporate money went to the GOP candidates in 2010.

    Companies that received bailout money giving generously to candidates

    "Most of those donations are going to Republican candidates"
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Ya might want to inform Goldman Sachs about this:

    Top Recipients, 2011-2012
    Romney, Mitt (R) $290,750
    Obama, Barack (D) $44,750
    Rubio, Marco (R-FL) $43,000
    Brown, Scott P (R-MA) $38,500
    Gillibrand, Kirsten (D-NY) $34,000
    ...view more Recipients
    Goldman Sachs: Summary | OpenSecrets
    I don't know about the majority of the GOP, but from how frantic some here are about the protesters, there is no doubt they are afraid.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Please just keep repeating this to the middle class, and to the poor that used to be middle class, as we approach the election, please keep repeating this as often as you can!!! Thanks!
    Another red herring.
    At least you're consistent, if only it were of substance.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Please tell us how Earl's medicare benefits will be cut in 2014???
    That's the year Obamacare begins to really kick in (it's such a good deal that they made sure it wouldn't take effect until safely after the election ), with it's massive cuts to the program, and reductions in reimbursement rates that will cause providers to flee the system.

    but hey, you don't have to take it from me.

    Even Pro Single Payer People are pointing this stuff out

    ...The first kind of cut is a scaling-back of the yearly payment increases these providers get to compensate for their increased costs in providing care to Medicare patients. Actually, these payment increases have never kept up with inflation of medical costs. The yearly payment increases have ranged from 2.0-3.5%[8] over the last decade, but medical care costs in general have increased about 6% annually. In spite of this, the Obama plan will deduct a significant fraction[9] of each year’s payment increase, and the deduction gets worse as time goes on. Medicare providers will have less and less incentive to treat Medicare patients.

    The second kind of cut is a one-time penalty if providers cannot increase their “productivity” as fast as the rest of the nation’s economy. CMS, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, knows it will be virtually impossible for providers to meet this “productivity” target, and has already counted these penalties as an income source. Even if facilities know they can’t meet their productivity targets, there will still be a strong incentive to rush Medicare patients through as fast as possible, to maximize their productivity and minimize the penalty. One medical adviser wrote[10] “Within the next 6-12 months, healthcare organizations will need to find a way to reduce their expenses or increase revenue by 3-5% to offset Medicare productivity adjustments.”

    The combination of the across-the-board reductions and the penalties for not meeting productivity targets means many providers will experience absolute decreases in funding from one year to the next.

    Medicare’s own Actuary estimates these two types of payment reductions could cause 15 percent of hospitals and other institutions to become unprofitable and stop providing Medicare services by 2019. By 2030 it would be 25 percent of hospitals...
    oh well. it's not like we're in a doctor shortage now, or anything, right?



    or, let's go to the actual Medicare Actuaries Themselves:



    but gosh, didn't the Obama Administration say access would be improved while holding costs down?



    meanwhile, do they say that Premium Support (the Ryan Budget) destroys Medicare, as Earl claims?



    Gosh, it looks like no they don't.

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    This Republican congressman is obviously concerned, Do you feel the the GOP has anything to fear from the 99% Movement?<img src="http://www.debatepolitics.com/attachments/polls/67116558-does-gop-need-fear-99-movement-sprite-6.jpg" attachmentid="67116558" alt="" id="vbattach_67116558" class="previewthumb">
    I say no the republicans have nothing to fear from the anti-wall street protesters, they are a bunch of loons.Now of course Peter King could be right, most likely they said the same thing about those dirty pinko commie anti-war trash hippies in the 60s and 70s. That is when I say the US government lost it's damn mind by starting to give a crap by what that trash says. Can you imagine if the same **** happened during WWI, WWII, Civil War or any other war prior to that? The US wouldn't exist today, we would be like Canada or Australia.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I say no the republicans have nothing to fear from the anti-wall street protesters, they are a bunch of loons.Now of course Peter King could be right, most likely they said the same thing about those dirty pinko commie anti-war trash hippies in the 60s and 70s. That is when I say the US government lost it's damn mind by starting to give a crap by what that trash says. Can you imagine if the same **** happened during WWI, WWII, Civil War or any other war prior to that? The US wouldn't exist today, we would be like Canada or Australia.
    There was.a.good bit of dissent in this country over our entry into WW1:

    Opposition to World War I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That is when I say the US government lost it's damn mind by starting to give a crap by what that trash says. Can you imagine if the same **** happened during WWI, WWII, Civil War or any other war prior to that? The US wouldn't exist today, we would be like Canada or Australia.
    I'm sorry! Both Canada and Australia are great countries.

    Also, both of them are more economically free than the US.

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