View Poll Results: Should the GOP should fear the 99% movement

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  • Absolutely should fear it

    33 31.13%
  • Somewhat fear it

    9 8.49%
  • Fear it a little bit

    3 2.83%
  • Fear it a tiny bit

    3 2.83%
  • Absolutely nothing to fear

    47 44.34%
  • Don't know

    1 0.94%
  • Don't care

    6 5.66%
  • Other (explian)

    4 3.77%
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?



    Nice little interview


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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Great video!!!
    Does anyone else except me see a bit of a thing America is famous for: Hypocrisy?



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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that's correct - political speech is considered different from obscenity.

    however, if we want to start limiting it, I've got a whole host of issues of the commons arguments in the back of my mind about how public employee unions shouldn't be allowed to participate in politics, any more than active duty members of the military are...
    You miss the point. Rights under the first amendment have reasonable limits and boundaries. Obscenity is just one of those. If I went to the same elementary school and stood on the nearby public sidewalk and started making a loud political speech which disturbed the teaching in that school, I would be subject to arrest and taken away - same thing if I stood up in the middle of the movie theater during a film and start preaching politics.

    You anti-union remark is yet another knee-jerk trash the unions vitriol that we see through many of your posts. It is silly and out of place and has no rational purpose in this discussion.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wrong as usual

    we on the right want freedom and freedom leads to winners winning and losers not winning

    we don't see income inequality to be a problem worthy of the socialist or fascist solutions the losers want

    we see many of those who are losers as being losers because of government policies implemented by the dems that sap ambition from the middle and lower classes and make dependency on the government way too easy
    FREEDOM is often used by those on the right as a meaningless and hollow cliche devoid of any actual meaning or substance. It becomes a convenient bumper sticker or lapel pin phrase that is thrown out there by the right to justify anything they want to justify and condemn anything they opt to condemn.

    This entire line of 'thinking' about winners and losers make no sense at all. It starts with the false premise that anyone who has money has somehow WON and anyone who does not have lots of money has somehow LOST. It continues with another false premise that these so called winners are in that glorious category because of their own hard work, talent or skill and thus deserve all that they have. What about those who simply had the good fortune to be born into money and inherited it? They were simply lucky enough to have their silk diapers changed by the French nanny while Mumsy and Daddykins frolicked at the private country club exchanging inside stock tips with their fellow swells. They were lucky enough to be born on third base and think that when they cross the plate they have hit a home run. They were lucky enough to get a huge boost in the family business with the first 25 miles of the marathon already run by somebody else. And that luck makes them the coveted and principled WINNERS in our society? Hardly. Thats a joke and a really bad joke at that.

    So some do not see income inequality as a problem. Fine. I would guess that attitude is shared by many who think of themselves as rich... not only today but throughout history. Many of them found out the hard way what income inequality can do to destroy a society.

    That is why this problem needs action today. We do not want that here for ourselves, our communities or our children.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post


    Nice little interview
    Well spoken protester! Very impressive. Thanks for posting!
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The rich also paid a LOWER Share of the income tax burden back then too
    Was that because the middle class was bigger?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Great video!!!
    Does anyone else except me see a bit of a thing America is famous for: Hypocrisy?



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    The Iranians do not seem to have missed the irony ~

    "TEHRAN, Iran (AP) – An Iranian military commander said Sunday that the protests spreading from New York's Wall Street to other U.S. cities are the beginning of an "American Spring," likening them to the uprisings that toppled Arab autocrats in the Middle East."
    Iran calls Wall Street protests 'American Spring'
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Was that because the middle class was bigger?
    It's more likely that there were less tax deductions for middle income people and less tax based income supplements.

    Let's really get to the meat of it though.
    During a recession, there is always going to be shrinkage in class groups of one kind, to another (likely lower) of another kind.
    Jobs almost always lag behind business profit, because of multiple reasons.

    This whole middle class dying crap is temporary.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Well spoken protester! Very impressive. Thanks for posting!
    He's actually one of the members of the band Rage Against the Machine.

    Smart guy.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    The fear, or better put, the legitimate apprehension, is that we have a President and a party who will direct the efforts (funds) of their political supporters so as to foment American against American class warfare, and eventually violence, so as to maintain political power.

    These protesters are winning no hearts and minds. 30% of this country will always be the disgruntled under-achieving liberal left. As political impetus goes, they are polarizing even more folks against Obama. A pox on Obama for being such a disgusting inept putrid politician.

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