View Poll Results: Should the GOP should fear the 99% movement

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  • Absolutely should fear it

    33 31.13%
  • Somewhat fear it

    9 8.49%
  • Fear it a little bit

    3 2.83%
  • Fear it a tiny bit

    3 2.83%
  • Absolutely nothing to fear

    47 44.34%
  • Don't know

    1 0.94%
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    6 5.66%
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    4 3.77%
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    the funny thing is, the "top one percent" as a static 2008 figure didn't come out ahead. basically, the top 1% of 2008 were divided into two groups: those who had pulled their money out of items exposed to the crash, and those who ceased to be the top 1%, to be replaced by those who had successfully bet against the bubble.

    looking at "the top 1%" over a period of years is sort of a silly misnomer - people flow in and out of it constantly. Complaining that the 1% have only gotten wealthier through the crash is like complaining that Jordan and Pippin must be sucking, because the Bulls aren't winning like they used to.
    Last edited by cpwill; 10-13-11 at 11:17 PM.

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    I never said I had any plans to refute any of the facts.

    I said your source is superbiased, hence it is a waste of time citing the direct words in your source, because it has no more credibility than you have. is that difficult for you to understand? I'm not going against your numbers.




    That isn't just my opinion. For instance one of the problems in New Zealand for instance, is that people don't invest enough abroad. In Ireland they have taken advantage of having low business taxes to attract rich people. This is making the rest of Europe mad, because rich people are moving their business to ireland. My signature says it best "Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong." Especially in a country like US where the rich pay most of your taxes, it is not a good idea to try to make them move.


    And lots of sources say "income inequality is our biggest problem." They belong together. I never said income inequality or wealth inequality is not a problem. I said you have no idea of solving it, and you are using wealth inequality numbers to create a shock effect. Raising taxes are not going to significantly reduce income inequality. Many countries with really high taxation, has high income inequality, and some countries with low taxation has low income inequality.

    You need to look at what factors cause income inequality. Problem is, in America, the left is just doing the blame-game, while the right is ignoring the problem.
    I see it differently the left is trying to address the problem and the right is doing every thing that they can to increase the income inequality, higher incomes and stealing lead to wealth inequality

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    I see it differently the left is trying to address the problem and the right is doing every thing that they can to increase the income inequality, higher incomes and stealing lead to wealth inequality
    I would suggest that you pop your bubble.

    There are a lot of intelligent people who support the right. Are they evil? Or maybe, the world is a little bit more complicated than you think?

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    the funny thing is, the "top one percent" as a static 2008 figure didn't come out ahead. basically, the top 1% of 2008 were divided into two groups: those who had pulled their money out of items exposed to the crash, and those who ceased to be the top 1%, to be replaced by those who had successfully bet against the bubble.
    looking at "the top 1%" over a period of years is sort of a silly misnomer - people flow in and out of it constantly. Complaining that the 1% have only gotten wealthier through the crash is like complaining that Jordan and Pippin must be sucking, because the Bulls aren't winning like they used to.
    You do realize that OWS's use of the terms "1%" and "99%" are more symbols than they are carefully analyzed divisions meant to be taken as concrete groups?

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Yawn-rant all you want, when we strip away all the nonsense what is left is a guy who is mad he isn't as rich as he thinks he should be and he wants the government to get even with those who are better off for him



    Great campaign slogan for your candidate, but you need to shorten it up a bit for your bumper sticker!
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    I see it differently the left is trying to address the problem and the right is doing every thing that they can to increase the income inequality, higher incomes and stealing lead to wealth inequality
    wrong as usual

    we on the right want freedom and freedom leads to winners winning and losers not winning

    we don't see income inequality to be a problem worthy of the socialist or fascist solutions the losers want

    we see many of those who are losers as being losers because of government policies implemented by the dems that sap ambition from the middle and lower classes and make dependency on the government way too easy



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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Great campaign slogan for your candidate, but you need to shorten it up a bit for your bumper sticker!
    that's the advantage of not having to run for public office

    I can tell the truth even if it pisses off millions of losers, slackers, failures and others who are a drag on society who unfortunately tend to vote against winners



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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    I would suggest that you pop your bubble.

    There are a lot of intelligent people who support the right. Are they evil? Or maybe, the world is a little bit more complicated than you think?
    for every All American there are hundreds of guys who didn't even make the varsity

    for every Olympic gold medalist there are thousands who didn't even try to make the olympic teams



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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wrong as usual

    we on the right want freedom and freedom leads to winners winning and losers not winning

    we don't see income inequality to be a problem worthy of the socialist or fascist solutions the losers want

    we see many of those who are losers as being losers because of government policies implemented by the dems that sap ambition from the middle and lower classes and make dependency on the government way too easy
    Clearly welfare led to the laziness and lack of ambition that allowed feudal lords to take most of what everybody produced with the help of managers and armed men.

    If those serfs had just worked harder, they could have been feudal lords too.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's the advantage of not having to run for public office

    I can tell the truth even if it pisses off millions of losers, slackers, failures and others who are a drag on society who unfortunately tend to vote against winners
    Your message appears to be getting to the protesters, all I can say is keep spitting out that hate of the middle class!
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