View Poll Results: Should the GOP should fear the 99% movement

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    3 2.83%
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    47 44.34%
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Thread: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    If you are so far gone you can''t see reality, I feel sorry for you because you are going to spend your life in a fantasy world and will never know the reality of the situation.

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    You have it all wrong
    The Tea Party does't blame the middle class and poor for the problem the country is in, but it blames the government and its structure from going away from the Free market-like/personal responsibility structure.

    WTF are you talking about?
    You admit in your response. "Free market-like(interesting choice of words for a right wing libertarian by the way, not that I disapprove of course)/personal responsibility structure. To insinuate that the nature of the problem facing the "middle" and lower e class is due to their own laziness or lack of ambition implies that their position in life is their fault and their fault alone. This movement however is making the statement that it is due to a lack of protection for the American worker and the loosening of corporate regulation which makes it rather difficult except for the lucky few to achieve any sort of stability or success or any real sort of social mobility.

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by alexxouellette View Post
    Yeah.... the wall street occupation is supporting the destruction of capitalism. Some of them are proposing a living wage of 10 dollars an hour. Why golly, that's still less than the minimum wage would be if conservative administrations hadn't kept it below the rate of inflation. The entire capitalistic system we've built over the past few hundred years will collapse because we've given workers some rights in an incredibly lopsided labor market. They're so stupid..... The Tea Party on the other hand, they always seem so wonderfully articulate, as do you for that matter. ".. when they stop the whole "Destroy Capitalism" thing." wonderful commentary, it has such intellectual depth and is so well supported by the reality of the situation. You certainly deserve to comment on the legitimacy of their demonstration and how intelligent the demonstrators are.
    There shouldn't be any minimum wage. Anyone what took Econ 1101 would know that. A higher minimum wage would just cause lesson supply of jobs and raise inflation. There should be different ways to stop the super rich from exploiting the system without dropping the incentive for them to make more money...not that difficult of a feat.

    And yes, I see the signs at my own college, T.V, and on the internet. And more then just a few that are clueless and just their to legalize pot(How I met your mother reference, anyone? anyone? ).

    This is just one big mob that anyone who is angry can project their own fantasy outlook on what its about.

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    You have it all wrong
    The Tea Party does't blame the middle class and poor for the problem the country is in, but it blames the government and its structure from going away from the Free market-like/personal responsibility structure.

    WTF are you talking about?
    No sir...you are wrong and your not paying attention....the teaparty has done nothing since the nov elections but attack everything and anything middleclass and poor.
    It started out they wanted the abolishment of Social Security and Medicare and medicaid...when they found what that kind of rhetoric was confronted with they stopped that...and then tried to destroy them by proxy while giving the rich and corporations billions in tax cuts <ryans plan> They have railed that Unions have caused companies to outsource and thats been proven a lie....teaparty govs got elected and instantly attacked all the public workers in their states and gave tax cuts to the richest and corps or tried and couldnt get it passed, they want regulations that protect workers gone they dont want a minimum wage...and THEY VOTED against stopping tax payer hand out subisdies to the richest corporation in the world..BIG OIL...everything the teaparty has stood for is an attack on the middle class and poor and has nothing to do with deficit reduction but everything to do with more deficit restructuring.
    WTF are you talking about...you need to stop watching just fox news and the get out more...and look around
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    It seems like a lot of people are naive about how quick these protests are catching on.

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Actually no... there are actually sister protest at my college and they are full of signs stay "Capitalism Is the Problem" and such. And don't worry there are definitely many of those too in the regular protest as well.
    There are MANY, including myself, who don't want capitalism done away with, we want it fixed.

    In my opinion its an excellent machine for transforming resources into wealth, and much good has come of it.

    But it is inherently concentrative. In a real sense it IS concentration. Takes money to make money.

    The bigger your money pile gets the faster the money pile gets bigger, the less actual "risk" relative to the pile as a whole.

    Its not evil.

    Its amoral.

    It does not care about you.

    It will eat you.

    Like fire. Very useful. Very dangerous.

    But manageable. Domesticable.

    It can be forced to serve those who employ it as opposed to employing those who serve it.

    If everybodys getting fatter at more or less the same pace overall, YMMV, its working for us.

    If a few are getting fatter, and owning more, at a much faster pace, and the many are pretty much not getting fatter AT ALL, its being used on most of us in the process of working for a few of us.

    It needs to return to being OUR economy.

    It needs to return to being OUR capitalism.

    So long story long, I think many more think capitalism is "broken" and needs to be fixed than want to be rid of it.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    If you are so far gone you can''t see reality, I feel sorry for you because you are going to spend your life in a fantasy world and will never know the reality of the situation.

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    There shouldn't be any minimum wage. Anyone what took Econ 1101 would know that. A higher minimum wage would just cause lesson supply of jobs and raise inflation. There should be different ways to stop the super rich from exploiting the system without dropping the incentive for them to make more money...not that difficult of a feat.

    And yes, I see the signs at my own college, T.V, and on the internet. And more then just a few that are clueless and just their to legalize pot(How I met your mother reference, anyone? anyone? ).

    This is just one big mob that anyone who is angry can project their own fantasy outlook on what its about.
    Unfortunately though a higher minimum wage does nothing to lower demand for products and services. An argument can be made that raising the minimum wage will lower the wage available to those for slightly more skilled work as employers are forced to pay more for other employees. It however will still be necessary to hire the same number of people to fulfill the demand I mentioned earlier. The point about inflation is well taken however it's not a 1:1 ratio between how much we raise the minimum wage and how much inflation increases.

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Actually no... there are actually sister protest at my college and they are full of signs stay "Capitalism Is the Problem" and such. And don't worry there are definitely many of those too in the regular protest as well.
    I'd be surprised if there weren't splinter groups protesting capitalism... but the movement was started as a way to protest greed and corruption. And I think most people in this country, and around the world for that matter, would agree America has greed and corruption problems. Hell, show me a country that doesn't have these problems!
    "There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, it to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution." óJohn Adams

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