View Poll Results: Should the GOP should fear the 99% movement

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  • Absolutely should fear it

    33 31.13%
  • Somewhat fear it

    9 8.49%
  • Fear it a little bit

    3 2.83%
  • Fear it a tiny bit

    3 2.83%
  • Absolutely nothing to fear

    47 44.34%
  • Don't know

    1 0.94%
  • Don't care

    6 5.66%
  • Other (explian)

    4 3.77%
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    do you mean Must suck. I am not getting schooled by anyone here

    I find it hilarious those who fail personal economics 101 pretend to lecture someone like me

    This isn't about doling stuff out in executive paychecks BTW

    its the envious whining that the rich ought to pay more on dividend income which is nothing more than ranting from those who don't have investment income about those who do
    Quote Originally Posted by alexxouellette View Post
    Thank you for quoting me and then not addressing anything I said it only helps to further demonstrate my argument. You were upset that these people paid no taxes, I explained why and how they are being given no truly unfair advantage. I'm not concerned with taking money from the wealthy but it isn't irrational to believe that taking 10,000 dollars from someone making 25,000 dollars is worse than taking 10,000 dollars from someone making 250,000 dollars a year. Relatively speaking that 10,000 dollars means a lot more to someone with 15,000 dollars left over not including state taxes to live on. Whereas the wealthier individual's money does truly mean less for him, not that it means little, merely that it means less. Lowering anybody's taxes isn't a reality at this point in time, I am more than willing to admit that our country has a spending problem, however amidst the spending we already incur and will continue to incur it is necessary not only to maintain revenue but to increase it. Since the amount is significant it makes more sense to take more from the wealthy who although not uninjured will not be grievously wounded than to bleed the less fortunate among us dry. How am I personally taking something from you, the money benefits you in the same way that it does me, it doesn't go from your pockets to mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by alexxouellette View Post
    You keep on complaining about how much we're complaining..... please make an actual argument, prove to me that it's better for society as a whole, not just a few individuals, that we don't raise taxes on the rich.


    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Non responsive-try again
    I have to type something but I think your own words sum it up quite nicely.

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Of course not

    but you know that

    I perform public services

    do you?
    Do I now? Only if putting up with uppity soccer moms is a public service. Will I as an urban planner? Certainly. Cities without urban planning generally grow into unmitigated messes. Look at Houston, for example. Or any city in the third world, ever.

    Since you're being so coy about what you do, I'll assume you're a corporate laywer. If you're anything other than a public defender, I don't see how you're doing a public service. As it is, a bigger portion of my taxes go to supporting what you do, than yours go to supporting what I do. Why should I have to pay for a court system that you're using more than me?
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Don't let him turn you off on the movie with his false teen bravado. It was a good flick.
    How can a movie where a hired killer teaches a 12 yo orphaned girl how to be a cleaner be a good movie? I'm genuinely puzzled. I can see the potential for some good examination of motives and emotions associated with the child's desire to avenge her family's deaths.
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    How can a movie where a hired killer teaches a 12 yo orphaned girl how to be a cleaner be a good movie? I'm genuinely puzzled. I can see the potential for some good examination of motives and emotions associated with the child's desire to avenge her family's deaths.
    Well he's a loner of course who kind of unwillingly gets mixed up into practically adopting this girl he is trying to keep out of his business. Well done movie tbh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the rich should pay the same rate as everyone else. right now half of america pays a zero income tax rate
    what about all the very wealthy people who only pay capital-gains taxes.

    what's short-term capital gains tax-rate again?

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the source of much obsession by several on this board
    that's ironic, considering your many posts on that exact same issue....and your sig.


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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    How can a movie where a hired killer teaches a 12 yo orphaned girl how to be a cleaner be a good movie? I'm genuinely puzzled. I can see the potential for some good examination of motives and emotions associated with the child's desire to avenge her family's deaths.
    There's even two versions, and the original is even stranger, as it includes a whole weird husband and wife dynamic rather than father daughter.

    But I bet you'll love them both when its over.

    (Unless you can't stand shoot-em-ups.)
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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    The Republican party is hoping that this Occupy movement dies out. They're hoping that once city officials grow tired of people hanging around their public facilities, whether local residents or transients, they'll force these people to leave. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where the real fun begins.

    My fear is that by trying to kick the protesters out, city officials will unknowingly spark deeper resentment backs people will see this as an attempt to muzzle the desenters. The argument from the protesters will then be all about exercising one's 1st Amendment rights. This is where things will likely boil over into chaos!

    NYC Mayor Bloomberg is taking the safer route by allowing the protesters to stay for as long as they like as long as they don't break the law. He knows that all it will take is one isolated incident to boil over into a firestorm! Look at what happened over in Boston where local police got into an altercation with some war veterans.

    Now, I'm of that camp that says if your protest permit has expired, you pack up and go home until your new permit has been approved. I'm also of that camp that says everyone has a right to peacefully assemble in a public place, but if you're being unrully and you're breaking the law or damaging public/private property you deserve to be arrested. Even MLK, Jr recognized that even in situations of peaceful protest gatherings there was always the risk of being arrested for something. It's when the protesters are attempting to go quietly and local authorities unleash on them "Rodney King-style" that I have a problem with. (And by that I mean the police begin to treat protesters unfairly even going to the extent to find any excuse to force the protesters to leave and their forced removal brings about unrest...think Selma and Birmingham, AL in the '60s.)

    I guess my point is while there are 2-sides to every story, there's also a right way and a wrong way to go about conflict resolution. The Boston PD may have been right about the damage done to public scene even if all that was destroyed were plants, but the protesters should have left quietly if asked to do so (unless, of course, the cops came in "Rodney King-style" which appears to have been the case here).

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    The Republican party is hoping that this Occupy movement dies out. They're hoping that once city officials grow tired of people hanging around their public facilities, whether local residents or transients, they'll force these people to leave. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is where the real fun begins.
    I hope you guys stay.

    Please make as much trouble as possible.

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    Re: Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

    99%...according to this lunacy only 1% of the population is a republican. That would explain why republicans get elected to office...because the other 99% votes for them (ha). With that in mind no one has anything to fear from the (so called) 99%...they really need a better name, like "The Instigators".

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