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What is protected under the 2nd amendment.

What weapons should be legal for civilians to own?

  • No firearms at all

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • Non-automatic rifles and shotguns

    Votes: 23 69.7%

  • handguns

    Votes: 28 84.8%

  • fully automatic weapons

    Votes: 21 63.6%

  • military-grade explosives (hand grenades, mines, etc.)

    Votes: 5 15.2%

  • Any man-portable weapon in use by the military

    Votes: 6 18.2%

  • Military vehicles and vehicle-mounted weapons (tanks, jets, etc.)

    Votes: 4 12.1%

  • No restrictions on civilian weapon ownership at all (up to and including nuclear)

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • Other (please explain)

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • Total voters
    33
Goshin said:
What regulations? You realize that regs on handguns, and other guns, vary dramatically from state to state...
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Yeah, but all states have regulations. I guess I agree with my state's regulation on getting a handgun and the ability to conceal a handgun.
 
Jryan said:
Yeah, but all states have regulations. I guess I agree with my state's regulation on getting a handgun and the ability to conceal a handgun.
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Could you be a smidge more specific? Your state isn't listed under your name.
 
Jryan said:
Sorry, North Carolina.
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Ah. Well there's a reason I live in SC and not NC. No offense but NC has some crazy laws.

You have to have a special permit in NC to buy a handgun... EACH handgun. Not so in SC.
NC has some weird requirements about having a gun in your vehicle. Also, NC law on when you shoot someone who breaks into your home is downright insane, FAR too complex for a person in the middle of a stressful and threatening situation to keep in mind.
NC and SC both have "shall issue" concealed carry permits, meaning if you takes the class and pays your money and passes the background check, they SHALL issue your permit to carry. I'm ok with that.

Otherwise, meh.
 
NC has some weird requirements about having a gun in your vehicle. Also, NC law on when you shoot someone who breaks into your home is downright insane, FAR too complex for a person in the middle of a stressful and threatening situation to keep in mind.
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Yeah, I don't know who wrote some of these laws; for instance, it would be better (liability wise) for my dog to bite someone outside my house off leash than inside my house on leash lmao.
 
Jryan said:
Yeah, I don't know who wrote some of these laws; for instance, it would be better (liability wise) for my dog to bite someone outside my house off leash than inside my house on leash lmao.
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Exactly, thank you. Just like the one that says you can shoot someone AS they break into your door/window, but once they are INSIDE you're supposed to use the "continuum of force"... verbal, soft hands, hard hands, retreat and only then using a deadly weapon. Dude, if someone busts in my house in the middle of the night I'm NOT waiting to find out the hard way that they've got a knife or a gun....
 
GreenvilleGrows said:
Of course, most people don't need their gun to get to work everyday (depending on what neighborhood they live in).
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Carried mine every day for years until it started looking a little too tasty.
 
atrasicarius said:
How. How did he acquire this.
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I know his parents own a gun shop and I believe they sell class 3 weapons. He also managed to get a flamethrower, mortar, and a rocket launcher.
 
Omgitsme said:
I know his parents own a gun shop and I believe they sell class 3 weapons. He also managed to get a flamethrower, mortar, and a rocket launcher.
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Which, in the hands of a law abiding and responsible person, are no threat to anyone.

Contrariwise, in the hands of an idiot or a criminal, a kitchen knife or automobile, or heaven forbid an 18-wheel tanker-truck full of flammables, can be a disaster.
 
Goshin said:
Contrariwise, in the hands of an idiot or a criminal, a kitchen knife or automobile, or heaven forbid an 18-wheel tanker-truck full of flammables, can be a disaster.
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Plane ticket and a box cutter, man. There's no such thing as deadly weapons, just deadly people.
 
Goshin said:
Which, in the hands of a law abiding and responsible person, are no threat to anyone.

Contrariwise, in the hands of an idiot or a criminal, a kitchen knife or automobile, or heaven forbid an 18-wheel tanker-truck full of flammables, can be a disaster.
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Completely agreed. I love FPSRussia.
 
molten_dragon said:
The thread up on civilians owning fully automatic firearms has me curious. I know we have some very strong supporters of 2nd amendment rights here on the board, and I'm curious how far some of you think the protection of the 2nd amendment extends. What weapons do you believe it should be legal for civilians to own?
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According to the Second Amendment, no weapon is off limits, is it? The text says "arms", not "guns", not "rifles", but "arms".

Of course, the word "arms" when the amendment was written consisted of muskets and cannon. The Second Amendment needs to be re written, but can you imagine a rational and reasoned debate on the subject?

OMG! The commie liberals are going to take our guns away! I told you so, told you! They'll get mine out of my cold dead hands...

and etc. and so on ad nauseum.
 
Dittohead not! said:
but can you imagine a rational and reasoned debate on the subject?
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I have a hard time imagining a rational and reasoned debate on any subject these days.
 
Dittohead not! said:
According to the Second Amendment, no weapon is off limits, is it? The text says "arms", not "guns", not "rifles", but "arms".

Of course, the word "arms" when the amendment was written consisted of muskets and cannon. The Second Amendment needs to be re written, but can you imagine a rational and reasoned debate on the subject?

OMG! The commie liberals are going to take our guns away! I told you so, told you! They'll get mine out of my cold dead hands...

and etc. and so on ad nauseum.
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I do agree that because the 2nd amendment was written at a time when those kinds of weapons wernt conceived that the government needs to seriously think about what should and shouldnt be allowed for civilian ownership.
 
Viktyr Korimir said:
Plane ticket and a box cutter, man. There's no such thing as deadly weapons, just deadly people.
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I beg to differ, their wouldn't be AS deadly people if we didn't have deadly weapons. I say this realizing we can't un-invent technology. Curse you technopoly!
 
A well regulated militia means well trained. Then it protected, from government interference, the right to keep and bear the kinds of arms an individual soldier, an infantryman, would use. As technology changes the Second Amendment's interpretation should move with it. The typical infantryman today carries a semi-automatic rifle with the ability to select automatic fire.

I would add all lesser included weapons, such as shotguns and pistols.
 
Goshin said:
I know a guy who actually got to play with that bazooka-like portable Tac-Nuke launcher they used to have back in the 70's. He said the instruction manual was hilarious: "Operator is advised to take cover immediately after firing." No ****, Sherlock?? :lamo
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