View Poll Results: What weapons should be legal for civilians to own?

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  • No firearms at all

    2 5.13%
  • Non-automatic rifles and shotguns

    27 69.23%
  • handguns

    33 84.62%
  • fully automatic weapons

    26 66.67%
  • military-grade explosives (hand grenades, mines, etc.)

    7 17.95%
  • Any man-portable weapon in use by the military

    8 20.51%
  • Military vehicles and vehicle-mounted weapons (tanks, jets, etc.)

    5 12.82%
  • No restrictions on civilian weapon ownership at all (up to and including nuclear)

    3 7.69%
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    3 7.69%
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Thread: What is protected under the 2nd amendment.

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    Re: What is protected under the 2nd amendment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Who (over 200 years ago) could of predicted our current weapons we have today, for starters. They couldn't so therefore the constitution has no say on the matter. How does a vehicle mounted weapon help you defend your home? and for that matter, from who!?
    By that logic since there was no electronic listening devices, telephones, mass printing presses, photographs, color magazines, computers and all sorts of other things then the 1st amendment and 4th amendment have no say in the matter.
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    Re: What is protected under the 2nd amendment.

    Non-automatic guns, handguns, and fully automatic guns should be legal. Everything else should be illegal, and I think it's a silly notion to suggest that nukes should be able to be legally sold.
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    Re: What is protected under the 2nd amendment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Non-automatic guns, handguns, and fully automatic guns should be legal. Everything else should be illegal, and I think it's a silly notion to suggest that nukes should be able to be legally sold.

    Some States still have an actual State Militia, that answers to the Governor.

    Personally, I think that every State should have one. If you're a member of the State Militia, I'd have no problem with you owning a mortar, grenade launcher, anti-tank "bazooka" or artillery piece... you put it in the militia armory where it is locked up when not in use... you check it out and take it to the ordinance range to practice shooting it under safe conditions.... then lock it back up in the Militia armory afterward. If we're invaded or something, well there it is, ready for use... State Militias are usually poorly funded and many members bring their own weapons anyway.

    Of course you'd have to pass Class III level background checks and so on, just like buying an LMG.

    But as far as Joe Blow keeping a 155mm howitzer in his garage, no I'm not overly keen on the idea pragmatically speaking.

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    Re: What is protected under the 2nd amendment.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    By that logic since there was no electronic listening devices, telephones, mass printing presses, photographs, color magazines, computers and all sorts of other things then the 1st amendment and 4th amendment have no say in the matter.
    What it means is that the constitution is obsolete in a lot of ways. It needs to be updated.
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    Re: What is protected under the 2nd amendment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Some States still have an actual State Militia, that answers to the Governor.

    Personally, I think that every State should have one. If you're a member of the State Militia, I'd have no problem with you owning a mortar, grenade launcher, anti-tank "bazooka" or artillery piece... you put it in the militia armory where it is locked up when not in use... you check it out and take it to the ordinance range to practice shooting it under safe conditions.... then lock it back up in the Militia armory afterward. If we're invaded or something, well there it is, ready for use... State Militias are usually poorly funded and many members bring their own weapons anyway.

    Of course you'd have to pass Class III level background checks and so on, just like buying an LMG.

    But as far as Joe Blow keeping a 155mm howitzer in his garage, no I'm not overly keen on the idea pragmatically speaking.
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    Re: What is protected under the 2nd amendment.

    The 2nd Amendment say: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    It does not specify the type, caliber, or magazine capacity.

    The Militia is all the citizens who are not restricted from fire arm ownership because of Felony Convection's.

    This Amendment was added to insure that the Government could never get out of control and try to institute the Tyranny the Colonies saw under King George.

    They foresaw the possibility of someone trying to become a dictator not unlike what some things happening today suggest are in the air.

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    Re: What is protected under the 2nd amendment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    The 2nd Amendment say: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    It does not specify the type, caliber, or magazine capacity.

    The Militia is all the citizens who are not restricted from fire arm ownership because of Felony Convection's.

    This Amendment was added to insure that the Government could never get out of control and try to institute the Tyranny the Colonies saw under King George.

    They foresaw the possibility of someone trying to become a dictator not unlike what some things happening today suggest are in the air.

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    Yeah. Because when the constitution was written, there was no such thing as a 20mm Vulcan cannon.
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    Re: What is protected under the 2nd amendment.

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    Yeah. Because when the constitution was written, there was no such thing as a 20mm Vulcan cannon.

    The "when the constitution was written, there weren't...." argument has already been dispensed with and shot down in flames.


    There are other legitimate reasons to apply some restrictions to who can own a 20mm rotary cannon... I'm sure you can think of a few.

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    Re: What is protected under the 2nd amendment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    Apparently some crazy guns are legal btw.

    The 40mm Machine Gun!!! - YouTube

    This guy lives in Alabama or Arkansas. Cant remember which.
    How. How did he acquire this.
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    Re: What is protected under the 2nd amendment.

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    How. How did he acquire this.
    I'm sure that he applied for and received his expensive and time-consuming Class III license, and then he bought it from someone else who had followed the same procedure. It certainly isn't difficult for any law-abiding citizen to purchase a machine gun; they're rare because very few people want a machine gun so badly as to spend that much time and money on acquiring one. My total arsenal is only worth a few hundred dollars, because that's all the money I'm willing to spend on hardware I'm only likely to ever actually use once or twice in a lifetime.

    Besides, number of machine guns that have ever been used in a felony is negligible. You want a dangerous weapon that any idiot can get his hands on, buy a car.

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