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Steve Jobs: Angel or Asshole?

Steve Jobs: Angel or Asshole?

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Personally I believe Steve Jobs was cruel. He had sweatshops in China were many child workers died of exhaustion or starvation, because of the working conditions and wages.
 
Although all of the above is true, I'm sure Steve Jobs has done things that have made you and my life better. I think we all can agree that apple has changed technology, and the world in some way.
 
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Steve Jobs was a capitalist. He took advantage of the laws he could, obeyed the ones he had to. He is neither angle nor devil.
 
Both. Gawker posted an exchange where he was real nice about asking for the iPhone prototype back, but at the same time Jobs was known for being a bit tyrannical.
 
He was a man with all fallacies. Not an angel. Not an asshole. He was a human being that made mistakes, took advantage, was a genius, was not very nice, was fair, was unfair. Now he's dead.

Shrug.
 
What totally uncalled for post, that I find offensive.

Have you never heard that you don't disrespect the dead?

Jobs was a tough task master and he built an empire from nothing making a great number of people very wealthy.

Have some respect and leave the dead alone.

Besides if you are Christian and manage to go to Heaven you don't become and angel, your spirit just exists on another plane.
 
He was neither one. He was just a person, with all the flaws and strengths inherent in being human.
 
Confucius said:
Personally I believe Steve Jobs was cruel. He had sweatshops in China were many child workers died of exhaustion or starvation, because of the working conditions and wages.
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I tend to say asshole, for his asshole-like business practices, for his asshole-like personality, for his asshole-like behavior, and his opposition against Korean tech companies (again, my nationalism).
However, he was a genius and changed the world, I have to admit that.
Overall, bit of an asshole, certainly better than many people
 
Confucius said:
Personally I believe Steve Jobs was cruel. He had sweatshops in China were many child workers died of exhaustion or starvation, because of the working conditions and wages.
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Unless we're talking about literal slavery (people being dragged off to work in factories), those people chose to work there. In preference to anything else they might have done. Let's suppose that Steve Jobs never amounted to anything, and as a result those sweatshops were never set up. The people that would have otherwise worked there are now worse off, because if a sweatshop wasn't the best option available to them, why would they choose to get a job there? Not only that, but us capitalists pigs here in the US of A don't get our goods at Wal-Mart prices. Everybody loses!

Yes, by our standards, sweatshops are pretty horrible. But if people in the third world are voluntarily working there, their alternatives must be even worse. Why do people want sweatshops criminalized?
 
The OP post is overly simplistic and uneducated ... but I do believe Jobs had to have been an asshole to be as successful has he was. You don't get where he was and accomplish the things he did with his company both before he was fired by the board and after he was brought back, by being a nice guy. I think the board recognized that after they fired him - yes he's may have been a task master, yes he was a perfectionist, yes he was a lot of things but at the end of the day, he revolutionized by design and technology as well as the how that technology was delivered, much of how we use cell phones, entertainment devices and phones into something else. Everyone followed where he led... history will be kind to him for his accomplishment and I don't begrudge the guy the decisions and actions he had to take to create his vision and make it a reality.
 
Confucius said:
Personally I believe Steve Jobs was cruel. He had sweatshops in China were many child workers died of exhaustion or starvation, because of the working conditions and wages.
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What a post. Where's the link to a credible source?? Two new posters, two minutes apart. Hmmmmm..... Your IPhone break?
 
Confucius said:
Personally I believe Steve Jobs was cruel. He had sweatshops in China were many child workers died of exhaustion or starvation, because of the working conditions and wages.
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Never mind that the Chinese government never intervened or that the families didn't protest and drive such companies out?
 
I don't like Apple like a company for their practices but won't bash Steve Jobs now that he's dead.
If you make a poll for Bill Gates I will gladly give my opinion. :)
 
Somewhere in between. We all like to lionize a guy when he's dead, but Steve Jobs was hardly an angel. Along with what was mentioned in the OP, Apple was responsible for aggravating the ongoing conflict in the Congo due to the demand for coltan. Of course, we as consumers are far from innocent as well.
 
Gates may being doing more for the world than Jobs did, but I've never bothered to really know. I am an Apple user and an extremely satisfied one. IMHO Jobs created something more unique than most software/hardware people.

As for saying things about dead people, that's bull****.
 
He was a brilliant visionary. As a society, we should all mourn the loss of someone who has literally changed the world, and perhaps could have changed it again had he been with us longer.
 
He was neither, he was human, just like us all.
 
This is such a troll of a question - like those are the only two choices? How about this: he was human.
 
Though I acknowledge and idolize his impact on and contributions to our society, I do not support Apple's manufacturing practices over seas and I also am displeased over the costs and consistent lack of upgrades with each generation of iPod, iPhone, Mac computers and other Apple products and accessories.
 
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