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Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

  • Yes

    Votes: 33 70.2%

  • No

    Votes: 14 29.8%
  • Total voters
    47
MaggieD said:
Yes. I think they should be allowed to own them; carefully registered and ballistics checked. I do not think that the owner of such a gun should be allowed to sell it on the secondary market. If the gun is used in a violent crime and someone is shot with it, then I think the owner of the gun should be held civilly and criminally responsible.

Being able to sell these guns at gun shows in states where licensing is not required should be outlawed by Federal law. After all is said and done, if these guns fall into the wrong hands, they are very dangerous...to other citizens and to law enforcement.

I'd also add that the definition of a "dangerous" automatic weapon probably needs to be tightened.
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I just wanted to inquire about your part about the owner being responsible. What if the gun was stolen?
 
Proud South Korean said:
I just wanted to inquire about your part about the owner being responsible. What if the gun was stolen?
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Case-by-case basis, I'd say. Was a police report made? How does it read? Were they stored securely? Out of sight? Heck, maybe we should require that people with automatic weapons store them unassembled and separate. As I think about it, maybe the law should require that they purchase liability insurance for just such instances.

If there's civil unrest, people are entitled to be able to defend themselves. In the nightmare scenerio, law enforcement would be woefully inadequate and too late to the party to help an individual. That's what these weapons are for...certainly not for hunting. Along with ownership of these deadly weapons should come awesome responsibility.
 
Heck, maybe we should require that people with automatic weapons store them unassembled and separate. As I think about it, maybe the law should require that they purchase liability insurance for just such instances.
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Then why would you need an assault rifle?:shrug:
 
MaggieD said:
Yes. I think they should be allowed to own them; carefully registered and ballistics checked. I do not think that the owner of such a gun should be allowed to sell it on the secondary market. If the gun is used in a violent crime and someone is shot with it, then I think the owner of the gun should be held civilly and criminally responsible.

Being able to sell these guns at gun shows in states where licensing is not required should be outlawed by Federal law. After all is said and done, if these guns fall into the wrong hands, they are very dangerous...to other citizens and to law enforcement.

I'd also add that the definition of a "dangerous" automatic weapon probably needs to be tightened.
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You're drastically overestimating the "dangerousness" of selective-fire military rifles, like the M16, which are not actual machine guns.


As for actual full auto weapons, like mounted machine guns, they're already heavily regulated under Class III.
 
You're drastically overestimating the "dangerousness" of selective-fire military rifles, like the M16, which are not actual machine guns.
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You don't find M16's dangerous?
 
Goshin said:
You're drastically overestimating the "dangerousness" of selective-fire military rifles, like the M16, which are not actual machine guns.

As for actual full auto weapons, like mounted machine guns, they're already heavily regulated under Class III.
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Yeah, I surely admit I know nothing. Ha! Have no idea what an M16 does. Then, to qualify, I would say that any automatic weapon that outguns the police in fire power ought to fall into the category of "exceedingly dangerous."

On a lighter note, since I can't copy from the site, while I was Googling, I found this little story:

Police were called to the scene of a bank, robbery in progress. It was after hours and a shadowy figure was seen through the window. The bank was sealed off; three adjacent buildings were evacuated...the coppers used bullhorns and telephones to try to make contact with the intruder, and, finally, getting no response sent in a SWAT team. The team discovered a life-size cardboard figure inside. "It was not immediately clear if the cardboard figure was taken into custody or will be charged with a false alarm. No paper cuts were reported."

Ya' just can't make this stuff up. :rofl :rofl

Bank cardboard cutout spurs police standoff | Say What?
 
Jryan said:
What about ammunition, do people here think people should be able to buy tracer rounds, hollow point, etc etc?
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I can buy hollow point and tracer rounds any day of the week where I live.
 
Jryan said:
You don't find M16's dangerous?
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They're alright I suppose. I'm not overly fond of the .223 cartridge.... I mean, dammit, we're talking about WEAPONS, holy **** they're SUPPOSED to be dangerous!!! :lamo



Dayum, y'all have got me so spun around I can't even remember whether I'm supposed to be arguing that a WEAPON is SUPPOSED to be dangerous... that's the frigging point in having one!! :lol:
 
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Goshin said:
They're alright I suppose. I'm not overly fond of the .223 cartridge.... I mean, dammit, we're talking about WEAPONS, holy **** they're SUPPOSED to be dangerous!!! :lamo
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Hehe, I would of been very concerned if your response was, "No, weapons aren't dangerous."
 
Goshin said:
They're alright I suppose. I'm not overly fond of the .223 cartridge.... I mean, dammit, we're talking about WEAPONS, holy **** they're SUPPOSED to be dangerous!!! :lamo
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Well, it made me mad when the military adopted the 9 mm for handguns. You can't beat the old .45 for stopping power.
 
Jryan said:
What about ammunition, do people here think people should be able to buy tracer rounds, hollow point, etc etc?
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Of course. Hollow points are good ammo. They are more likely to take down the BG with fewer shots, and are less likely to overpenetrate and endanger bystanders than standard FMJ.

Tracers.... I never saw much point in them off the battle field, its not like they do extra damage or anything, but knock yo'sef out if that's yo thang.... they're fun to play with at night....
 
hazlnut said:
Another DH-Wannabe pissing contest, giving gun collectors and great shooters of unarmed rabbits and cans a chance to boast about their knowledge of can-killing machines.
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do people owning guns upset you?
 
bicycleman said:
They satisfy that old urge to fire automatic weapons, though. Every time you fire like that, you can feel the power you wield.
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Uh sorry, I understand weapons and can shoot full automatics whenever I want. I find them a waste of ammunition generally
 
Proud South Korean said:
Funny, but what I meant was:
Daewoo Precision Industries K2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The K-2 is bascially the Korean version of the Kalashnikov, except more expernsive and better, but not so comfortable and easy to use
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semi only versions of those were briefly on the US Market until Bush senior soiled his shorts and issued a mentally unsound executive order banning imports of such weapons--they weren't popular enough to engage in the machinations used to bring Soviet AKs, Bulgarian AKs etc (18 USC 922c compliance parts) into the USA

I see them every once in a while at gun shows
 
Well, back on topic, who should be able to own an assault rifle? What measures should we take to weed out those deemed unworthy?
 
Jryan said:
Well, back on topic, who should be able to own an assault rifle? What measures should we take to weed out those deemed unworthy?
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do you understand that if you are banned from owning or possessing a handgun or a 22 rifle you are banned from owning or possessing an "assault rifle"

do you understand that your beloved democrat party made it illegal for honest civilians to own any assault rifle made after May 19, 1986 in order to poison a law that prevents say Mass. from arresting the Yale shooting team as they traveled to the Ivy league skeet tournament at Dartmouth

do you understand to own a class III weapon (ie an assault rifle) you have to pay 200 dollars for a tax stamp, subject yourself to unannounced inspections by the ATF, etc
 
sadly we dont know who the people who voted for a ban are. I figure one is the college kid who has no clue about guns
 
Jryan said:
Guns kill, that's all I need to know.
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So do sharp pencils... in fact any object can kill. Oxygen in sufficient quantities can kill, as can Nitrogen.

You're solution is to ban everything then. Amirite?
 
Ockham said:
So do sharp pencils... in fact any object can kill. Oxygen in sufficient quantities can kill, as can Nitrogen.

You're solution is to ban everything then. Amirite?
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No because the sole intention of a sharp pencil is to write, not to kill.
 
Jryan said:
Guns kill, that's all I need to know.
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and you think that is always bad because you are an idealistic college kid who has no clue about the real world? trust me, being able to kill someone efficiently is sometimes a power that one most desperately needs. But your complete ignorance on assault rifles vs other weapons is typical of a kid who has never been in real harms' way
 
Ockham said:
So do sharp pencils... in fact any object can kill. Oxygen in sufficient quantities can kill, as can Nitrogen.

You're solution is to ban everything then. Amirite?
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Killing isn't bad as wrong as the right things get killed
 
TurtleDude said:
and you think that is always bad because you are an idealistic college kid who has no clue about the real world? trust me, being able to kill someone efficiently is sometimes a power that one most desperately needs. But your complete ignorance on assault rifles vs other weapons is typical of a kid who has never been in real harms' way
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What is with the personal belittling attacks?
 
Jryan said:
What is with the personal belittling attacks?
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People who are against rights based on them being ignorant tend to annoy me
 
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