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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    gee that's a moronic definition

    Freedom, your ability to marry, and your right to vote can all be taking away from you if you commit a crime

    same with your freedom of association etc

    MASSIVE FAIL
    Seriously?

    I voted "yes", however if one is convicted of armed robbery or armed assault we should reconsider whether or not this person should have the right to own a firearm. If the US government can take away your freedom by arresting you or by executing you, taking away an armed robber's gun isn't that absurd.

    Under most circumstances, assault rifles should be obtainable by the general public.
    "It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my life I have been searching for evidence which could support this." Bertrand Russell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    We the people can always amend the constitution.
    Yeah, for example, we could amend it to prohibit you anti-gun folks from speaking freely on the topic. Howzat sound?

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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Yeah, for example, we could amend it to prohibit you anti-gun folks from speaking freely on the topic. Howzat sound?
    Or we could amend it so more libertarians could jump into threads that they havn't read. I have clearly stated twice in this thread that I think all GUNS should be attainable.

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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Seriously?

    I voted "yes", however if one is convicted of armed robbery or armed assault we should reconsider whether or not this person should have the right to own a firearm. If the US government can take away your freedom by arresting you or by executing you, taking away an armed robber's gun isn't that absurd.

    Under most circumstances, assault rifles should be obtainable by the general public.
    you clearly failed to comprehend my point

    the college kid claimed the ability to own a weapon is merely a privilege because committing a crime forfeits that ability

    that is not a proper argument that the ability is a privilege because many undeniable rights are forfeited if you commit a crime



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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you clearly failed to comprehend my point

    the college kid claimed the ability to own a weapon is merely a privilege because committing a crime forfeits that ability

    that is not a proper argument that the ability is a privilege because many undeniable rights are forfeited if you commit a crime
    Definition of Privilege:
    A special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to one person or group of people.

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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Definition of Privilege:
    A special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to one person or group of people.
    fail

    and the real fail is claiming that if something can be taken away by due process of law it is a privilege and not a right



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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    fail

    and the real fail is claiming that if something can be taken away by due process of law it is a privilege and not a right
    You are ms-interpretting me. I am merely claiming that the government, could and should, have the right to take away your privilege to own a gun (On a personal level). IE, if I rob a bank, the government can take away your right to buy a gun if you rob a bank.

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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    You are ms-interpretting me. I am merely claiming that the government, could and should, have the right to take away your privilege to own a gun (On a personal level). IE, if I rob a bank, the government can take away your right to buy a gun if you rob a bank.
    being an attorney I see the term RIGHT and PRIVILEGE as distinct Items and when you confuse one with another I find that disturbing



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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    being an attorney I see the term RIGHT and PRIVILEGE as distinct Items and when you confuse one with another I find that disturbing
    So you are officially ignoring definitions then?

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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    So you are officially ignoring definitions then?
    just the ones used incorrectly by someone who is clueless concerning the fact that firearms ownership is a RIGHT not a PRIVILEGE



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