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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    That is obvious, why don't they use the beretta 391 semi auto shotgun loaded with #4 buckshot over a M16 in Iraq/Afghanistan? Because the M16 is more deadly.
    Oops you just stepped in it

    I am talking about an urban environment full of unarmed targets

    and guess what, My nephew is a special forces captain. he has man carrying shotguns for use in house clearing operations

    lets see, 20 rounds in 2 seconds out of a M16 versus 150 lethal projectiles out of a 6 shot shotgun in 2 seconds

    You need to give it up-you are unarmed in this sort of contest



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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Well, if they are on the streets the shotgun would be useless at a certain range. Say 100 yards and the M16 is the choice hands down. So the M16 is more versatile.

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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Well, if they are on the streets the shotgun would be useless at a certain range. Say 100 yards and the M16 is the choice hands down. So the M16 is more versatile.
    true, it is more versatile. but in many situations it is not as "deadly"

    especially the situations that involve illegal killing-the sort of stuff that the laws you want supposedly will stop

    its sort of hard to conceal a M16 BTW. that's why you don't hear of many cases involving people being robbed or murdered with rifles-



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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true, it is more versatile. but in many situations it is not as "deadly"

    especially the situations that involve illegal killing-the sort of stuff that the laws you want supposedly will stop

    its sort of hard to conceal a M16 BTW. that's why you don't hear of many cases involving people being robbed or murdered with rifles-
    True, you do agree that not everyone who can buy a gun should be able to buy a M16? (I'm okay with people using them at the firing range, you go there, you assume the responsibility if someone decides to go nuts).

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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    My view is this: Any semi-automatic rifle up to .50, and any fully automatic rifle up to .30. Any fully or semi automatic pistol caliber weapon up to .50. The only requirement for buying and owning a weapon or ammunition would be a license, similar to a driving license. To get it, you'd have to take a short gun safety class and pass a background check. The license also gives you the right to concealed carry.
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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    True, you do agree that not everyone who can buy a gun should be able to buy a M16? (I'm okay with people using them at the firing range, you go there, you assume the responsibility if someone decides to go nuts).
    yeah, if you are able to own a centerfire bolt action rifle (which I can kill someone at 800 meters with) or a semi auto shotgun-( like the one my 13 year old uses for sporting clays) or the smith and wesson I used to shoot my way out of a mugging, then yes you should be able to own the most constitutionally valid weapon in the USA-the standard infantry weapon of both our regular army, our national guardsmen and is used by every major CIVILIAN law enforcement agencies in the USA



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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    My view is this: Any semi-automatic rifle up to .50, and any fully automatic rifle up to .30. Any fully or semi automatic pistol caliber weapon up to .50. The only requirement for buying and owning a weapon or ammunition would be a license, similar to a driving license. To get it, you'd have to take a short gun safety class and pass a background check. The license also gives you the right to concealed carry.

    That seems to be a common sense rationally thought out position



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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Anything that law enforcement has, the People should be able to have. This means that the People should have automatic weapons, tear gas, tasers, batons, bullet proof vests, sniper rifles, flash grenades, water cannons, etc.

    What the military has does not fall under domestic purview, as those weapons are intended for defending us from outside invasion; hence I do not support citizens having access to all military technology.

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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Anything that law enforcement has, the People should be able to have. This means that the People should have automatic weapons, tear gas, tasers, batons, bullet proof vests, sniper rifles, flash grenades, water cannons, etc.

    What the military has does not fall under domestic purview, as those weapons are intended for defending us from outside invasion; hence I do not support citizens having access to all military technology.
    I think you are referring to the swat team here. We should not be able to defend ourselves from the SWAT team because they are only called on in extreme cases (From what I have seen).

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    Re: Should an American citizen have the right to own a fully automatic assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    I think you are referring to the swat team here. We should not be able to defend ourselves from the SWAT team because they are only called on in extreme cases (From what I have seen).
    what stupidity again. "we should not be able to defend ourselves from the SWAT Teams"

    did it ever occur to you that many criminal organizations have the same weapons swat teams have

    Hell I have most of the weapons swat teams have and can outshoot most of them



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